Bellzy
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Proposal: P.K Subban??
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We basically need to move holl or kerfoot to balance the cap at this point.
Adding PK probably doesn't help that much and takes away from using the cap from moving both of them too improve the team
Adding PK probably doesn't help that much and takes away from using the cap from moving both of them too improve the team
ITM
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...
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I would consider it, but only if P.K. was willing to take $1.0 per year, similar to Giordano and I'd only want to do it if I was packaging Kerfoot, Sandin, Holl and picks or prospects, in a deal that lands me an upgrade at LW in my top 6, on a contract that fits.
You could sell me on the idea of...
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Upgrade-Tavares-Nylander
Prospect-Jarnkrok-Engvall
Aube-Kubel-Kampf-Anderson
Gaudette
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Muzzin-Subban
Benn
Murray
Samsonov
You could sell me on the idea of...
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Upgrade-Tavares-Nylander
Prospect-Jarnkrok-Engvall
Aube-Kubel-Kampf-Anderson
Gaudette
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Muzzin-Subban
Benn
Murray
Samsonov
Mess
Global Moderator
I've mentioned PK Subban myself on a home town discount former Ontario boy comes home to end his career.
This is what Dubas said the other day when asked if he was done.
Dubas says he isn't done putting finishing touches on Leafs roster,
Dubas was rather specific when asked about the kind of player he wants to add on the blue line.
“Preferably a right shot with some physicality and some competitiveness and size and strength,” Dubas said. “That would be what we would look for.”
In other words, a player in the ilk of Lyubushkin, who took his robust ways to the Buffalo Sabres on a two-year contract.
Dubas says he isn't done putting finishing touches on Leafs roster, which is a good thing
Kyle Dubas isn’t done yet.
www.fortsaskatchewanrecord.com
For the record, to keep flexibility maximal, I'd also consider trading Kerfoot, Holl and Sandin and signing a guy like Paul Stasny to a 1 year deal to play 3C... Do something like...
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Stasny-Engvall
Aube-Kubel-Kampf-Anderson
Gaudette
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Muzzin-Subban
You would have money to add at the deadline id you needed to upgrade Robertson at 2LW and you'd have assets to acquire someone using what you get back for Kerfoot, Sandin and Holl.
Stasny can low key still play. He put up 21 goals and 45 points, in 71 games last year. He was pacing for about 50 points. Ideal 3C on a bargain contract, IMO.
Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Stasny-Engvall
Aube-Kubel-Kampf-Anderson
Gaudette
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Muzzin-Subban
You would have money to add at the deadline id you needed to upgrade Robertson at 2LW and you'd have assets to acquire someone using what you get back for Kerfoot, Sandin and Holl.
Stasny can low key still play. He put up 21 goals and 45 points, in 71 games last year. He was pacing for about 50 points. Ideal 3C on a bargain contract, IMO.
Leafsfan74
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If P.K will take the hometown discount for a year or two, why not?
He is ultra competitive and would enjoy the spotlight back in a hockey hotbed. He's had playoff success including that insane shutdown of Crosby in his youth on a team that blocked more shots than I've ever seen to upset the Pens.
He is ultra competitive and would enjoy the spotlight back in a hockey hotbed. He's had playoff success including that insane shutdown of Crosby in his youth on a team that blocked more shots than I've ever seen to upset the Pens.
A1LeafNation
Obsession beats talent everytime!!
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900k and bury him if he can't play, just like Simmonds.
Rielly Liljegren
Muzzin Brodie
Giordano Subban
Sandin
Murray
Samsonov
Rielly Liljegren
Muzzin Brodie
Giordano Subban
Sandin
Murray
Samsonov
Buds17
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The team already had seven defencemen prior to the signings of Benn and Mete. Moving Holl out for Subban wouldn't do anything for a potential logjam, although it would at least help out the cap situation ever so slightly (by 500K) if Subban were to sign for 1.5M.
Mess
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P.K. Subban in 6 years younger than 39 year old Mark Giordano and signed for 2 years.
I can just picture Leafs PP with PK basting away from the point with his howitzer.
If you get Subban for the Holl cap hit or less $2 mil it would be a no brainer.. You can even toss Holl on waivers and create that cap space as needed.
I can just picture Leafs PP with PK basting away from the point with his howitzer.
If you get Subban for the Holl cap hit or less $2 mil it would be a no brainer.. You can even toss Holl on waivers and create that cap space as needed.
crump
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Dubas put out the Bat Signal in that last press conference. Good chance PK signs in TO, Hometown a discount to try to win here. Maybe just waiting for the RFA picture to settle with Sandin and Holl maybe on the block. Wouldn't hate it as a depth move as long as both Sandin and Lijegren get full time duty.
A1LeafNation
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Havoc
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Not a fan. He's too wild and erratic. Want us to focus on smart and structured hockey moving forward. Last thing we need in the playoffs is PK Subban spontaneously and recklessly trying to do it all himself to become a Toronto legend.
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Even with or without PK, Sandin will be hard pressed to see regular duties without injuries since the Leafs have no plans to play him on his off side.
Yes, if you can move the Holl contract, he would make our Power Play so much better. Not to mention he plays way better in a big market.
He's not the same player he was in Montreal at all. His game is much more quiet.
He's not the same player he was in Montreal at all. His game is much more quiet.
Mess
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Jordie Benn only played in 39 games last year and healthy scratch for a large majority.
Mete was waived by the last place Montreal Canadiens and claimed by the 28th place Ottawa Senators and then not given a qualifying offer making him a UFA.
No offense, but these are #8/9 depth Dman moves designed to fill out a Marlies roster and not creating a logjam at the NHL level.
Leafs NHL defense ..
LHD
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Rielly
Muzzin
Giordano
Sandin
RHD
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Brodie (shoots L but play rightside)
Liljegren
Holl (out) and Subban (In) using the $2 mil cap space.
Stigma
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Looks like the OP and I had the same thought almost at the exact same time LOL (I posted on the free agent thread).
I'm down for Subban for the reasons I stated in the other thread and for the reasons mentioned above by Mess.
I mentioned bringing Kessel back too and gave reasons.
Of course, both would have to be cheap and we would need to clear out salary.
I'm down for Subban for the reasons I stated in the other thread and for the reasons mentioned above by Mess.
I mentioned bringing Kessel back too and gave reasons.
Of course, both would have to be cheap and we would need to clear out salary.
Mess
Global Moderator
Sure trade Holl for a draft pick if there are any takers, waiving him wouldn't be the first option, just an option to remove $2 mil cap space.
Why would a team offer a pick, if say they could sign a Dman like PK Subban for free?
Now we don't know what Subban is asking on the open market and he might be looking for a multi year deal paying him $3-4 mil per. (speculation only)
However Subban being an Ontario boy presents the opportunity of home town discount potential just like Leafs got from Gio.
Buds17
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We're not in disagreement here as I mentioned that the team already has seven defenceman ahead of Benn and Mete as is. Unless the team plans on utilizing 11F and 7D as a regular approach in games, exchanging Holl for Subban won't really change that situation much at all.Jordie Benn only played in 39 games last year and healthy scratch for a large majority.
Mete was waived by the last place Montreal Canadiens and claimed by the 28th place Ottawa Senators and then not given a qualifying offer making him a UFA.
No offense, but these are #8/9 depth Dman moves designed to fill out a Marlies roster and not creating a logjam at the NHL level.
Leafs NHL defense ..
LHD
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Rielly
Muzzin
Giordano
Sandin
RHD
---------------
Brodie (shoots L but play rightside)
Liljegren
Holl (out) and Subban (In) using the $2 mil cap space.
MSZ
Car guy
Subban isn't the player he used to be. Leaf fans would be sorely disappointed with him if that's the expectation.
Plus he's always been a defensive liability.
I dont understand how your logic can be so consistently inconsistent.
In another thread youre complaining about depth pickups because their from bottom feeders and now you want Subban, who played bottom pair minutes on a non playoff team.
And your reasoning is to see Subban replace a top pair PKer for us, so he can play PP2 when he was PP3 on a bottom 5 powerplay?
And ti be clear, im fine with adding Subban under a mill, but he'd slot on as our 8th best D now.
Mess
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We're in agreement on the quantity but not the quality
Subban >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holl
Leafs started the playoffs for the first 2 games with Holl in the pressbox as a healthy scratch (and should have left him there).
Remember this ?
** Norris Trophy winner P.K. Subban **
Now remember this ?** Justin Holl delayed penalty on this pick play in game #7 **
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You could bring Dave Keon back too but it won't help you win a cup.
These players are DONE.
