Adrianopolous
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Has it ever been worse than this? I've been a fan since 2002, and I don't think i've seen anything quite like this.. Even for other teams.
Has it ever been worse than this? I've been a fan since 2002, and I don't think i've seen anything quite like this.. Even for other teams.
How is that?
With the surplus value we had in the Karlsson and Anderson contracts we definitely had a good situation. But we didn't surround them with enough skill (but lots of intangibles!), we kept hiring bad coaches, injuries to key players didn't help, we didn't spend to the cap and were probably unable to attract the players we wanted to Ottawa. Major opportunity missed.Alfie loss was a real gut wrencher, but the org went out and got Ryan so had hope at the time. No hope with a Karlsson trade. Ownership has broken covenant with fans, by burning bridges with generational player and providing no hope.
In a cap system, we really should have been going for it this year and next.
Those teams all have more hope than Ottawa lol. The sens are rebuilding without our first round pick and are selling assets for money. Ottawa has actually been worse than those two teams since the 12 game mark of the season with Karlsson. Its not getting any better.We could be Buffalo or Arizona or Florida or have no team...
No. It hasn't.
Been a fan since 95.
Ottawa will have an NHL team in Lebreton.Feels like the organization is on the brink. Only thing worse would be a confirmation that the team is being relocated...which honestly wouldn't surprise me if it happens after Melnyk sees the fan reaction of a Karlsson trade.
Btw I've never seen a team intentionally tank a season away with no 1st round pick. Truly mind blowing lol
Alfie loss was a real gut wrencher, but the org went out and got Ryan so had hope at the time. No hope with a Karlsson trade. Ownership has broken covenant with fans, by burning bridges with generational player and providing no hope.
In a cap system, we really should have been going for it this year and next.
lol the drama of this board is quite amusing to be honest
All that happened yet is :
You forgot that we sell draft picks for cash while in rebuilding modeWhat a clueless post.
The market is strong but is rejecting this owner.
Melnyk's wealth has gone up by the franchise he bought for 100M being worth 600M today.
His properties in Ottawa generate a positive revenue stream, but his debt position is the problem.
Virtually all professional sports owners operate the franchise itself at a loss, but increase their wealth as the asset appreciates value.
lol the drama of this board is quite amusing to be honest
All that happened yet is :
- cup-of-coffee player Gabriel Dumont picked up off waivers, acquired off waivers in the first place
- 28 y/o Chris Didomenico who played in Europe mostly has been traded for 23 y/o Ville Pokka, D-man with good potential not long ago
- Dion Phaneuf heavy contract dumped for a cheaper contract, and a swap of 4th line centers, acquiring Nick Shore, younger, cheaper and better at this point
- Derrick Brassard, 31 y/o next training camp, traded for a goalie with star potential, a late 1st and a solid #5 D-man on a Cup champion team (who will then be flipped for a decent asset or 2)
Nothing dramatic happened outside of the fact that Ottawa is a very weak hockey market. That’s what Sens fans should be worried about. The only thing that is going to save this team from another relocation is the arena downtown. Well hopefully, because would it be enough if the Sens were to suck for years like the Leafs or Oilers did/do for example?
You can blame the GM all you want, but the GM is executing orders, which is saving money all the time. I am really not a Dorion fan but he has a tougher job that most other GMs with a lower budget and salary restrictions when trading. Of course, the trades would look better on paper if he was the one burning money in the process
You can blame the owner all you want, but a business has to be profitable after all. Didn’t he save the franchise from Bankrupt in the first place? I really don’t think he’s likeable as a person but as a businessman I really don’t see why he should sacrifice his own wealth for the good of people insulting him left and right?
When you can’t fill up a Canadian arena in the playoffs, that’s what is really dramatic here and to the owner, it had to be very alarming considering how good that season was for the lower budget small market Sens
I think his plan is to sell once the new arena is underway (or almost done) and cash in on the initial investment. Hopefully it’s a wealthier group acquiring the team (and will support the team financially in tough years) but don’t be surprised if they eventually threaten for relocation if the business is not more profitable, particularly after a heavy investment with an arena downtown
Now I think some people should really take a break from this, and come back a bit more relaxed. The insults left and right are hilariously ridiculous
Holy ****! Someone who has a level head still.
The MLSE media has got most people on here so fired up about pure speculation.
Relax. If Karlsson does get traded, (I doubt it still) it would be a huge risk, though it may be very beneficial for the club to move forward.
You never know. Maybe King Karl does not like playing for this team because of some hater fans being so negative.
What a clueless post.
The market is strong but is rejecting this owner.
Melnyk's wealth has gone up by the franchise he bought for 100M being worth 600M today.
His properties in Ottawa generate a positive revenue stream, but his debt position is the problem.
Virtually all professional sports owners operate the franchise itself at a loss, but increase their wealth as the asset appreciates value.
Yes..........Bergevin is a clown, and is ruining the team, and that's with an owner who refuses to get involved..no win situations in both cities right now...I wonder if the Habs forum has sunk this... low.