GDT: Ottawa Senators at Philadelphia Flyers - 1PM - TSN5/RDS2 - Moms I would like to.... have their sons win Edition

[AchtzehnBaby]

Mom's road trip - what could go wrong?

The Senators welcome back a familiar face today as Shane Pinto makes his return to the line up for the first time this season and will surely pack a punch to an already stellar Senators offence averaging 3.34 goals per game. While we're not sure where Pinto will slot in yet, the Senators centre depth just got notably better, and the Flyers will be put to the task of figuring out how to play against this new look Sens group.

The Flyers find themselves just two points out of the Metropolitan Division lead just past the midway point of the season. Led by Travis Konecny (41), Joel Farabee (36), Sean Couturier (30), and Owen Tippett (30) all with 30+ points on the season, the Senators will have their hands full. The true strength of this Flyers team however is their structured defensive system allowing only 2.74 goals on 28.5 shots per game. If the Senators want a chance today they will have to test Carter Hart early and often.

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[armani]

Looking forward to Shane Mr. Bean Pinto back in the fold. Finally a full-strengthish team sans Forsberg.

Go Sens Go, this is a winnable game.

 

[Dan Patrick]

TEAM BEAN!

Go Sens Go!

 

[Icelevel]

PINTOooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

Can someone tell the players the fans aren’t all that bothered about yesterday, because they played a complete game with full effort, which is what we want night in night out.

GSG, make me believe!

 

[Larionov]

Are they playing Sogaard or running back Korpisalo? If you claim to believe in the fancy stats, as Jacques did the other day, then you have to be playing your second goalie today. The stats clearly show a dropoff in performance for goalies playing a back to back. To me you either play Sogaard today or send him back down and bring up Mando or Meralainen, because there is no sense in having him here if you aren't prepared to play him occasionally.

 

[Micklebot]

Are they playing Sogaard or running back Korpisalo? If you claim to believe in the fancy stats, as Jacques did the other day, then you have to be playing your second goalie today. The stats clearly show a dropoff in performance for goalies playing a back to back. To me you either play Sogaard today or send him back down and bring up Mando or Meralainen, because there is no sense in having him here if you aren't prepared to play him occasionally.

I'd give Sogaard another chance. If he has another rough game, we can send him down for more seasoning,

 

[Tuna99]

For the Sens to finish the season at .500 and 82 points they need a 2nd half season record of 24-16 -1


Possible after what we saw last night. They’d pick between 8-11 if they go .500%

 

[Tuna99]

I'd give Sogaard another chance. If he has another rough game, we can send him down for more seasoning,

You could get Guy Fieri to season Soggard but you’re still going to end up with a career goalie similar to Anton Forsberg.

Soggard is not the answer. He can play games but he’s not your playoff goalie or future starter. Just to many holes in his game but most importantly he doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup to be an NHL starter

 

[lang006]

This should be a good test. Sens with two solid home performances in a row. Can they go on the road and replicate the overall good structure with minimal errors combined with a consistent effort for 60 OR do the poor habits start creeping back in as soon as something doesn’t go their way. Philly also playing back to back and 3rd in 4 days also so it’s not a rested vs tired team scenario.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Are they playing Sogaard or running back Korpisalo? If you claim to believe in the fancy stats, as Jacques did the other day, then you have to be playing your second goalie today. The stats clearly show a dropoff in performance for goalies playing a back to back. To me you either play Sogaard today or send him back down and bring up Mando or Meralainen, because there is no sense in having him here if you aren't prepared to play him occasionally.

I would think Sogy starts today on such a quick turn around.

Now official

 

[Larionov]

You could get Guy Fieri to season Soggard but you’re still going to end up with a career goalie similar to Anton Forsberg.

Soggard is not the answer. He can play games but he’s not your playoff goalie or future starter. Just to many holes in his game but most importantly he doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup to be an NHL starter

I'm starting to come to that conclusion also. It's shocking to me how a guy who is that tall can have such a stooped stance and look so small in the crease, but he does it. I also think that because he is so tall, there are holes that open up between his arms and torso that aren't an issue for guys who are in the 6'2" range. I am much more keen on Meralainen as the potential goalie of the future, and also think that Mandolese gets overlooked - Mando is that guy who, like Joey Daccord and Chris Driedger, is going to come back to bite us in the ass once we let him leave the organization.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Larionov]

I'm OK with this. I think Grieg is versatile enough that he can be effective in either spot. He'll play the same game no matter what. Like a lot of young centres he's also weak in the dot, so getting him on the wing might help our faceoff numbers.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I'm OK with this. I think Grieg is versatile enough that he can be effective in either spot. He'll play the same game no matter what. Like a lot of young centres he's also weak in the dot, so getting him on the wing might help our faceoff numbers.

It's the expected move but I have liked his 200 foot game at C and I think that GGT line is working. Although I would have liked that to remain .. I was expecting him to shift over because he is so plug and play . Its good for the roster to have the flexibility to move him back there if needed for whatever reason. Which line ? With Stutzle moving Joseph down or with Pinto moving Kelly down?

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

That leaves (possibly) more questions than it answers.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That leaves (possibly) more questions than it answers.

 

[Big Muddy]

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That's a blast from the past. The old Kung Fu phase.

 

[scout20]

I think moving Greig to the wing will allow him to be more aggressive on the forecheck..

 

[Sanderson]

You could get Guy Fieri to season Soggard but you’re still going to end up with a career goalie similar to Anton Forsberg.

Soggard is not the answer. He can play games but he’s not your playoff goalie or future starter. Just to many holes in his game but most importantly he doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup to be an NHL starter

I'd say it's way too early to make that call. Most goalies these days don't become a fulltime starter until age 26 or so.

Marc-Andre Fleury at times looked like a mental desaster who cost his teams playoff-series on multiple occasions, yet also backed his teams on multiple cup-runs. Same with Matt Murray, who was esssential in two Cup-wins for the Penguins, but also had serious issues with mental toughness when things weren't going well for his teams. At age 23 Giguere hadn't made it to the NHL on a full-time basis yet, but at age 26 had won a Conn Smythe on what may have been the best playoff-performance by a goalie ever. Linus Ullmark didn't look like anything special, until he moved to the Bruins at age 28 and won a Vezina at age 29. Adin Hill just carried his team to the Cup at age 27, having never been a starter in the NHL prior to that, and even bouncing around between the NHL and AHL a lot.

Goalies just take a while. There are plenty of cases where things didn't click until much later on, and sometimes goalies worked perfectly fine under one situation / one team, while not working at all somewhere else.. Maybe Sogaard will never be the starter for Ottawa, but right now it is too early to tell.

 

[Micklebot]

Any word on who is coming out? Sounds like it will be a winger, so, Kubalik? Kelly has been playing too well to get cut, I guess one of Chartier or Kastelic could come out

 

[God Says No]

Ahem @OD99

Bookmark away, if it means that much to you.

Advanced stats mean Jack at this point, not nearly enough games to mean anything. I am comfortable seeing a different game than you.

 

[Larionov]

In the before times, they would have been afraid to sit Kubalik because it might hurt his trade value. Now, I just don't think that's a consideration with the new regime - they will sit whoever deserves to sit.

 

[Crosside]

Any word on who is coming out? Sounds like it will be a winger, so, Kubalik? Kelly has been playing too well to get cut, I guess one of Chartier or Kastelic could come out

I will go with Kastelic

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Kubalik out with a convenient minor hip injury