Other Chicago & General Sports Thread LVII: Bulls draft Carter & Hutchison

[IU Hawks fan]

for me, that whole thing being a small market is does not compute. i see that Ohtani would want a big market, esp with an asian market. i can see a potential of Ohtani making a whole lot of commercials. that is why NY, Dodgers, Chi, Seat and believe it Stl being in the running.

What are you talking about? Have you been avoiding the news?

New York is out. All the teams left are either on the west coast, the Cubs, and Rangers.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Typical New York/Boston arrogance when it comes to sports. It's almost like a player could legitimately not want to play there, much in the same way that a player might legitimately not want to play in any other market.

 

[LDF]

What are you talking about? Have you been avoiding the news?

New York is out. All the teams left are either on the west coast, the Cubs, and Rangers.

i thought i read that bos and yank have a face to face mtg with his agent. i may be wrong in what i read.

yeah i read that the yank were out of it, but i was confuse with the article.

 

[LDF]

i thought i read that bos and yank have a face to face mtg with his agent. i may be wrong in what i read.

yeah i read that the yank were out of it, but i was confuse with the article.

dang, i guess i didn't read that article clearly. i can't find where that article is. this was before i went to sleep.....

however this is in line with what you mention.

Shohei Ohtani won't sign with New York Yankees

 

[TheSting]

for me, that whole thing being a small market is does not compute. i see that Ohtani would want a big market, esp with an asian market. i can see a potential of Ohtani making a whole lot of commercials. that is why NY, Dodgers, Chi, Seat and believe it Stl being in the running.

Say wut, NY and Cards are long out.

Anywho. As far as the making of commercials and cashing in, it's hard to have mass market appeal with just a specific demographic as they are still the minority populace. You say asian but he's only going to appeal to Japanese Americans in terms of commercials cause he probably doesn't speak any english at all which is why guys like Ichiro Suzuki who is one of the greatest names in Japanese MLB players had no mass market commercial value cause for one, you got to be able to speak fluent english with on camera personality to match if you want to reach a wider crowd.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Geez the NY media really is classless, hard to see why he didn't want to go there...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQK9H0DUMAAeHWQ.jpg

 

[Stu Grimson]

Considering they are attacking him, but made no mention of how terrible of a human being Chapman or Jose Reyes are. Pathetic

 

[TheSting]

Geez the NY media really is classless, hard to see why he didn't want to go there...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQK9H0DUMAAeHWQ.jpg

sets a bad precedent for future foreign players....media just helping the cause by hurting the Yankees in the long run

 

[TheSting]

Breaking down the seven finalists in the race to sign Shohei Ohtani

Chicago Cubs:Like the Dodgers, they're limited to $300,000 in bonus money, but they can offer Ohtani a first-rate, winning franchise that needs only an ace starting pitcher to go alongside all the young position player talent. Don't underestimate the ability of Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer to lure in the guy they want, similar to when they signed Jon Lester as a free agent before the 2015 season. And no manager is willing to move players around like Joe Maddon, so Ohtani could play some right field against right-handed pitchers with Jason Heyward shifting over to center.
[see link for additional breakdown]

 

[piteus]

Geez the NY media really is classless, hard to see why he didn't want to go there...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQK9H0DUMAAeHWQ.jpg

LOL. No one takes the NY Post and the NY Daily News seriously. It's a tabloid. New Yorkers buy the paper for their headlines.

 

[piteus]

Considering they are attacking him, but made no mention of how terrible of a human being Chapman or Jose Reyes are. Pathetic

You don't know New York. It's not how they work. They will mock anyone regardless of race, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc. The Chicago media is nice compared to NYC. That's why people are paid a premium to work in NYC ... in most fields. It's a dog eat dog world in NYC.

 

[BK]

Bulls going hard after that first pick.

 

[piteus]

Bulls going hard after that first pick.

That's why I don't really talk about the Bulls, but the potential top pick in the draft. Right now analysts are leaning towards Bagley ... but we'll see how the season shakes out.

IF the Bulls pick Bagley, next year we can have:

Wing: Markannen
Wing: Bagley
Center: Lopez (if he is not traded)
Wing/Guard: LaVine
Point Guard: Dunn

With some shrewd FA signings, this could be a quicker rebuild than expected. IF everything goes to plan, Dunn will be the biggest wild card. He really needs to improve his shot and stop turning the ball over. He's got some upside though.

The Bulls need to find more shooters.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Good news for the Bulls is at least they're this awful when they can still only drop one slot thanks to the draft lottery. Last thing they'd want happen is to get Av'd.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Good news for the Bulls is at least they're this awful when they can still only drop one slot thanks to the draft lottery. Last thing they'd want happen is to get Av'd.

Isn't the worst case scenario dropping to 4, assuming they have the worst record, or am I wrong on that?

 

[piteus]

Isn't the worst case scenario dropping to 4, assuming they have the worst record, or am I wrong on that?

You are correct. However, I think only once in the history of the lottery has two teams moved up in 1 year. Most likely, the Bulls will have a top 2 pick with the worst record in the NBA.

Right now, Bagley has the highest upside ... but Doncic wouldn't be a bad consolation. Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Young, Sexton, Bridges, Williams, Carter, and Knox are the potential lottery picks. It's a very top heavy draft. I'm sure there are some other Europeans that will be highly rated as well.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

It looks like in 2007 Memphis fell to #4 and Sac fell in 2009. I didn't go back any further than that. Don't know if the odds have changed since then ( I know they are changing in 2019).

 

[IU Hawks fan]

You don't know New York. It's not how they work. They will mock anyone regardless of race, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc. The Chicago media is nice compared to NYC. That's why people are paid a premium to work in NYC ... in most fields. It's a dog eat dog world in NYC.

Also: Cost of living.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

You don't know New York. It's not how they work. They will mock anyone regardless of race, sex, religion, ethnicity, etc. The Chicago media is nice compared to NYC. That's why people are paid a premium to work in NYC ... in most fields. It's a dog eat dog world in NYC.

I used to live in NYC and just really have no desire to move back for this reason. Can't imagine being an athlete there, talk about a nightmare.

 

[LDF]

I used to live in NYC and just really have no desire to move back for this reason. Can't imagine being an athlete there, talk about a nightmare.

i hear you, but take in consideration a person from another country or someone from small town USA, the hype of NY city and hollywood, will be a big deal for them.

 

[piteus]

Also: Cost of living.

It's a double edged sword. The money attracts talent. Talent demands money. Limited amount of space. Cost of living moves up. My mom still doesn't believe how much I paid for my apartment. It is ludicrous.

 

[piteus]

I used to live in NYC and just really have no desire to move back for this reason. Can't imagine being an athlete there, talk about a nightmare.

The media is mean. It takes a special kind of athlete to succeed in that city. Even after his first Super Bowl win, Giant fans called him Sling Blade.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Isn't the worst case scenario dropping to 4, assuming they have the worst record, or am I wrong on that?

You are correct. I was mistakenly remembering what the change in the lottery odds for the 2019 draft were about and what the rules were now.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Wow, Russia banned entirely from the 2018 Winter Olympics.

USA has a shot to medal in hockey now.

 

[BK]

The media is mean. It takes a special kind of athlete to succeed in that city. Even after his first Super Bowl win, Giant fans called him Sling Blade.

I love NYC for some of its features (museums, restaurants, architecture, etc) but it seems like the people there (making a generalization but I do not mean everyone) are dbags just to be dbags. I have traveled the world and NYC's population has been by far the most hostile and off-putting.