GDT: OT: Playoffs whatever..

[the]

I don't hate the Blackhawks but 3 Stanley Cup is enough. Same for the Kings, I want a new Stanley Cup champion.

Let's go Blues and Sharks!!

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I used to think Quenneville was the best coach in the league.

Then, I started paying attention to the Hawks closer. I guess it really is Babcock.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Power play making the difference in the Tampa game.

Yes, but here in Montreal we have stability on our PP.

What does Tampa have?

 

[MikeKeen235]

I don't hate the Blackhawks but 3 Stanley Cup is enough. Same for the Kings, I want a new Stanley Cup champion.

Let's go Blues and Sharks!!

Let's go any team who hasn't won a cup in the last 15 years.

 

[Habsawce]

Capitals vs. Sharks would be my ideal finals.

 

[Doc McKenna]

I used to think Quenneville was the best coach in the league.

Then, I started paying attention to the Hawks closer. I guess it really is Babcock.

Don't get too excited yet. I watched him in detroit a lot and he had super HOF dman on his teams. Subban may be good, but lidstrom is (to me) 3rd best Dman to play the game after Orr and Bourque in the modern era. Better than robinson, better than coffey, better than chelios, better than huddey. This is the major reason he left detroit, their team is a shadow of itself. If you remove Larkin from the wings they are finishing with us and looking forward to the lottery.

If I see him get Toronto a cup, I'll be a believer. He has all the rope one can handle right now, and he allowed the leafs to do a proper rebuild. So he gets a pass for another 2 years, you know because of 5 year plans, then he has to start getting the leaf to the 2nd round or better. Otherwise he is in the same boat as everyone else. Good coach that had great players. Look at Byslma. Babcock is not MT bad, but he is far from the great hockey mind everyone thinks, like Burke Toronto will expose how good he really is.

 

[LaP]

Capitals vs. Sharks would be my ideal finals.

Would be a fun final for sure. Can't go wrong with either ovy or big joe winning their first cup.

 

[LaP]

Here's the thing though, THIS was stupid but in the series Shaw has been more the cause of goals FOR the Hawks than against them.

He has been one of the most important Hawks players.

If Shaw is your best player you have a big problem.

 

[sheed36]

Yes, but here in Montreal we have stability on our PP.

What does Tampa have?

A competent coaching staff who knows how to coach a successful PP.

It's mind blowing that the Habs PP as been pure suckage for 3 straight seasons now and yet no one has lost a job on the coaching staff over it.

 

[MikeKeen235]

A competent coaching staff who knows how to coach a successful PP.

It's mind blowing that the Habs PP as been pure suckage for 3 straight seasons now and yet no one has lost a job on the coaching staff over it.

Craig Ramsay was the culprit and they sacked him...

 

[LaP]

A competent coaching staff who knows how to coach a successful PP.

It's mind blowing that the Habs PP as been pure suckage for 3 straight seasons now and yet no one has lost a job on the coaching staff over it.

It's even more mind blowing when you have one of the top 5 offensive dmen duo in the league and two 30 goals scorer. I mean as a PP coach if you can't get the PP going with Subban, Markov, Patch and AG you should be fired.

 

[Kriss E]

Would be a fun final for sure. Can't go wrong with either ovy or big joe winning their first cup.

Would be great for Trotz too, who imo doesn't get the recognition he deserves because he never won.
Always hear about Babs and Quenneville, but to me Trotz is probably higher.
What he was able to do with very weak teams in Nashville was impressive. Always thought he'd do great with a more offensive team, so would be good for him to get that recognition.

 

[OldCraig71]

It's even more mind blowing when you have one of the top 5 offensive dmen duo in the league and two 30 goals scorer. I mean as a PP coach if you can't get the PP going with Subban, Markov, Patch and AG you should be fired.

Watching the Caps and Lightning on the PP is beautiful and we actually watch them get genuine opportunities to score goals or actually score them. In today's NHL when you get 5+ pp situations per game would it not be imperative to have the best pp coached team? Our coach does not value goal scoring and creativity so he sticks with the same style of pp, passes around the outside back to the point, shot/low percentage that it gets through and a 5'4" screen in front.

 

[Justin11]

Capitals vs. Sharks would be my ideal finals.

I agree. These are the 2 teams I'm cheering for now.

 

[OldCraig71]

I like the Blues, good goaltending,D, size and clutch goal scoring. I never thought they had a chance against the mighty hawks and it's not over yet but at least it will have to go to 7. They have been getting crap calls against them. I often daydream about a Habs team built like St Louis playing in the eastern conference. It would be beautiful.

 

[Adriatic]

Don't get too excited yet. I watched him in detroit a lot and he had super HOF dman on his teams. Subban may be good, but lidstrom is (to me) 3rd best Dman to play the game after Orr and Bourque in the modern era. Better than robinson, better than coffey, better than chelios, better than huddey. This is the major reason he left detroit, their team is a shadow of itself. If you remove Larkin from the wings they are finishing with us and looking forward to the lottery.

If I see him get Toronto a cup, I'll be a believer. He has all the rope one can handle right now, and he allowed the leafs to do a proper rebuild. So he gets a pass for another 2 years, you know because of 5 year plans, then he has to start getting the leaf to the 2nd round or better. Otherwise he is in the same boat as everyone else. Good coach that had great players. Look at Byslma. Babcock is not MT bad, but he is far from the great hockey mind everyone thinks, like Burke Toronto will expose how good he really is.

Don't forget he also took a weak Anaheim team to finals and lost in 7. So he's had success with a weaker roster too.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Shaw has been great for Chicago in this series. He had a 3 point night last night, but boy that was a dumb penalty for him to take. Zero reason for it. Plus, he had been warned, so extra stupid because now the refs are looking out for him.

Chicago lost a ton of quality depth when they traded Saad and Sharp. What young players they have they are not replacing that offensive depth. It doesn't help that Toews and Hossa aren't producing either.

Rumours are they may have to move Shaw this summer for cap reasons as well, so slowly that Cup team is being disassembled. Who knows maybe that 2018 2nd will be higher than we think it is.

 

[Sword]

Here hoping that the Blackhawks era is coming to an end.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Shaw has been great for Chicago in this series. He had a 3 point night last night, but boy that was a dumb penalty for him to take. Zero reason for it. Plus, he had been warned, so extra stupid because now the refs are looking out for him.

Chicago lost a ton of quality depth when they traded Saad and Sharp. What young players they have they are not replacing that offensive depth. It doesn't help that Toews and Hossa aren't producing either.

Rumours are they may have to move Shaw this summer for cap reasons as well, so slowly that Cup team is being disassembled. Who knows maybe that 2018 2nd will be higher than we think it is.

Blackhawks had to do some dissassembling after they won in 2010. That being said, Toews is going to have to give them a good game 5 and, quite frankly, do much better than he did this year in general. I don't care how many ''intangibles'' you have, $10.5m is a lot of money for a guy who did not even hit 60 points and looked pretty disinterested for a lot of the season. Maybe he's just tired from playing as much hockey as he has........

 

[LaP]

Blackhawks had to do some dissassembling after they won in 2010. That being said, Toews is going to have to give them a good game 5 and, quite frankly, do much better than he did this year in general. I don't care how many ''intangibles'' you have, $10.5m is a lot of money for a guy who did not even hit 60 points and looked pretty disinterested for a lot of the season. Maybe he's just tired from playing as much hockey as he has........

I agree. At 10.5 millions leadership, defensive play, faceoffs, .... add as many intangibles as you want it's not enough. At this salary you need to be productive offensively either in the season or in the playoffs.

 

[MikeKeen235]

Hey @HabsDood where's tonight schedule? You got us used to that very useful daily post. Pretty please!

 

[FireBurningBin]

Toews is still worth the contract simply for the fact that he is too important for them to let go of. Just like Kopitar.

Historically his playoff production makes the price easier to swallow.

What they lost in Sharp, Saad they got back in Anisimov, Panarin, Shaw playing a bigger role and Dano to trade for Ladd.

Perhaps more concerning is the decline of Hossa; Toews' line is going to look quite barren without even Shaw next season.

 

[LaP]

Toews is still worth the contract simply for the fact that he is too important for them to let go of. Just like Kopitar.

Historically his playoff production makes the price easier to swallow.

What they lost in Sharp, Saad they got back in Anisimov, Panarin, Shaw playing a bigger role and Dano to trade for Ladd.

Perhaps more concerning is the decline of Hossa; Toews' line is going to look quite barren without even Shaw next season.

Hossa will be 38 next season. The end is close.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Shaw has been great for Chicago in this series. He had a 3 point night last night, but boy that was a dumb penalty for him to take. Zero reason for it. Plus, he had been warned, so extra stupid because now the refs are looking out for him.

Chicago lost a ton of quality depth when they traded Saad and Sharp. What young players they have they are not replacing that offensive depth. It doesn't help that Toews and Hossa aren't producing either.

Rumours are they may have to move Shaw this summer for cap reasons as well, so slowly that Cup team is being disassembled. Who knows maybe that 2018 2nd will be higher than we think it is.

Shaw's playing his last games as a Hawk.

No one is going to take Bickell's contract without the Hawks giving up a 1st and/or a good prospect, not a mid-level one. They had to give up Stephen Johns just to get rid of Patrick Sharp and that was to a divisional rival.

Shaw's a goner with Panarin hitting his bonuses.

Blackhawks had to do some dissassembling after they won in 2010. That being said, Toews is going to have to give them a good game 5 and, quite frankly, do much better than he did this year in general. I don't care how many ''intangibles'' you have, $10.5m is a lot of money for a guy who did not even hit 60 points and looked pretty disinterested for a lot of the season. Maybe he's just tired from playing as much hockey as he has........

Toews at $10.5m is already looking bad. The Hawks team isn't going to look too good as they start getting hit with recapture penalties on Hossa's deal (IIRC). I doubt they'll even be able to re-sign Panarin next summer as he'll easily command over $6-million at this point.

And their defense is already bad after the top-3. There's a huge drop off from Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson down to Rozsival, van Riemsdyk, Svedberg and Rundblad. Gustafsson should be in the lineup, but Q's gotta make room for Rozsival.

 

[WeThreeKings]

God damn lazy russians Kucherov, Tarasenko, Kuznetsov and Ovechkin

Can't win with those guys.

We need a better russian scout