OT: FIFA World Cup expanding to 48 teams, expansion worth $1billion

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  1. Hoek

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    Argentina or Portugal going deep might help too, or should I say Messi and Ronaldo. Messi vs. Ronaldo in the final would be pretty easy to hype.
     
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    Right?!!?!

    There are going to be 32 teams in Russia. For the first time, they will be seeding the Draw. There's always Host and top 7 seeds in the first pot. But now Pot 2 is Teams 8-15 by FIFA rank; Pot 3 is 16-23, Pot 4 is 24-31.

    A year ago, if I told you this new system would make Pot 1: 1 ARG, 2 GER, 3 BRA, 4 BEL, 5 COL, 7 FRA, 8 POR, 53 RUS

    Guess which of these are Pot 2 and Pot 3:
    Pot W: 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 17, 28, 21
    Pot X: 6, 11, 13, 14, 19, 20, 22, 23

    Pot Y: 24, 25, 31, 32, 33, 35, 40, 50
    Pot Z: 27, 36, 38, 42, 43, 46, 49, 51

    (14 of those 32 teams in my four pots are either in playoffs or still alive for CAF group play; and I listed 5 of the 7 as upsets).

    But you get my point: Everyone viewed expanding the World Cup as if it was going to let teams 33-48 in when they weren't getting in before because they weren't good enough. The reality is that out of teams 12-54, the HALF getting in and the half being left out are pretty balanced. It's a zipper, not a top and bottom.
     
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    I think the fandom of Mexican-Americans who follow El Tri is generalized way too much. It isn't "All Mexico fans in the USA watch El Tri in Spanish." There's definitely age considerations (The English language online/app audience beats the Univision online/app audience 3 to 1 across the board). But the numbers show that El Tri fans flock to Univision at a higher rate when they PLAY USA. Because the English broadcast is annoying American Soccer propaganda. So they pick Univision.

    We talked in the NHL National TV thread about "I'm GLAD my team only has X national games. I'd rather watch MY GUYS call the game." That's what happens for USA-Mexico. And I totally get that, because as a Mets fan, the 2015 World Series FOX broadcast was so annoying, I switched to Fox Deportes for games 2-5 (And I don't speak Spanish. Like, AT ALL).


    Another thing that's going to be crazy interesting: There's a lot of die-hard soccer fans who will watch the World Cup just because it's a World Cup. Chances are all of THOSE people weren't being counted in the USA ratings because they were at sports bars, live viewing parties, rallies, etc.
     
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    Bloomberg and a few other newspapers have articles today on this issue. Sounds like Fox is on the hook:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...project-20-million-in-lost-world-cup-ad-sales

    Apparently 75% of ads were already sold so that should help but Fox may have to compensate advertisers in some way depending on how those contracts were negotiated.
     
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    I used to watch England play with my Father for the same reasons, and it was closed circuit TV at a Theater in Buffalo back then. Ironically by the time the games came to broadcast TV he had passed.

    Their current form is certainly cause for concern isn't it?
     
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    Brazil was also a "perfect storm" with the US doing relatively well and the games being played in the afternoon, heck one game was played at 9pm EST which was surreal for me :D Also, easy to say now I guess, but the field in 2014 looked stronger than 2018 so far, probably doesn't matter to the casual fans...

    What might help is FOX's commitment to show a lot of the games on their over-the-air network however most matches will kick off at 7am and 10am with the latest kickoff at 1pm
     

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