One McDavid or two Scheifeles to start a new team?

[SmellOfVictory]

Mark Scheifele likely has a top 10 (or top 5) contract in the NHL in terms of value for an elite player, and since McDavid's contract is roughly double the cost (yet still good value for the best player in the league) I figured I'd throw out the question: including contracts, would you rather have one McDavid or two Scheifeles to build a team around?

If you're against human cloning you can think of it as two players of equivalent skill and dollar value to Scheifele.

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[Deam78]

Two Scheifeles. Pure force down the middle.

 

[Icebreakers]

One Mcdavid, who said I wont be able to acquire a Scheifele type player? lol? Does taking Mcdavid mean i have Brandon Sutter as my 2C?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Two scheifeles easily

 

[jetsforever]

1 McDavid can get you ~100 points
2 Scheifeles can each get you ~80 points
It depends on who you have as the guy under McDavid though, and how expensive his AAV is. The salary cap probably swings this in the direction of the Scheifeles.
This is a bit like comparing Edmonton and Toronto (Matthews+Tavares) if Matthews and Tavares were on way cheaper deals.

 

[Peggy]

1 McDavid can get you ~100 points
2 Scheifeles can each get you ~80 points
It depends on who you have as the guy under McDavid though, and how expensive his AAV is. The salary cap probably swings this in the direction of the Scheifeles.
This is a bit like comparing Edmonton and Toronto (Matthews+Tavares) if Matthews and Tavares were on way cheaper deals.

I'd rather have 2 scheifele's at 12 mill than mcdacid and drai at 21 mil
I could still afford drai under that budget

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

One Mcdavid, who said I wont be able to acquire a Scheifele type player? lol? Does taking Mcdavid mean i have Brandon Sutter as my 2C?

this lmao.

 

[Havre]

One Mcdavid, who said I wont be able to acquire a Scheifele type player? lol? Does taking Mcdavid mean i have Brandon Sutter as my 2C?

You need more than two players on a hockey team though. So if you assume McDavid has an excellent 2C at a good contract that player would be just as useful as a 3C in the Scheifele scenario.

How anyone chooses McDavid for any other reason than marketing purposes (which a real team would care about) I would never know.

 

[lawrence]

a
Scheifeles level player is much easier to acquire.

a player like McDavid might not come around for another 15 years.

I take the mcdavid level player and wait a few years to get my Scheifeles. I take one mcjebus over 3 Scheifeles.

 

[Peggy]

a
Scheifeles level player is much easier to acquire.

a player like McDavid might not come around for another 15 years.

I take the mcdavid level player and wait a few years to get my Scheifeles. I take one mcjebus over 3 Scheifeles.

It's much "easier" to acquire a scheifele

Yeah the league is full of ppg centres
At 6 mil lol

 

[Spirit of 67]

2 Scheifs.

Not even remotely an argument here.

 

[Skolman]

2 Scheifs.

Not even remotely an argument here.

Would you rather have 2 Brayden Point's or 1 Auston Matthews? Serious question. Assuming Matthews is at 11 mil and Point is at 5.5.

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

Would you rather have 2 Brayden Point's or 1 Auston Matthews? Serious question. Assuming Matthews is at 11 mil and Point is at 5.5.

Scheif is going to be recognized as a top 5 C in the league rather soon.. pay attention. Point is very good but not at that level yet.

 

[ricky0034]

Scheif is going to be recognized as a top 5 C in the league rather soon.. pay attention. Point is very good but not at that level yet.

there's probably easily as much gap between McDavid and Matthews as there is between Scheifele and Point though so that's pretty irrelevant

 

[Spirit of 67]

Would you rather have 2 Brayden Point's or 1 Auston Matthews? Serious question. Assuming Matthews is at 11 mil and Point is at 5.5.

It's a little early for that since Point hasn't established who he is just yet.

With the OP you're talking about possibly/probably (and one day certainly) the best player in the league vs a top 10 player (x 2).
Some believe that Matthews will be the 2nd best player of his generation, so, for agruments sake, let's say he is. Would I take 2 of a top 10 player for him at the same cap hit for both? Absolutely.
In other words, you're example of Point may not be the best one. But to the philosophy of your argument, yes I would.

 

[Silky mitts]

2 Schiefles if I get the contracts

 

[Skolman]

It's a little early for that since Point hasn't established who he is just yet.

With the OP you're talking about possibly/probably (and one day certainly) the best player in the league vs a top 10 player (x 2).
Some believe that Matthews will be the 2nd best player of his generation, so, for agruments sake, let's say he is. Would I take 2 of a top 10 player for him at the same cap hit for both? Absolutely.
In other words, you're example of Point may not be the best one. But to the philosophy of your argument, yes I would.

You make zero sense.

The fact you said there's "not remotely an arguement here" when it comes to McDavid vs Scheifele X2, but make somewhat of a arguement when it comes to Matthews vs Point X2 just shows your bias.

Also, like Ricky said. The gap between McDavid and Matthews is just as big as the one between Scheifele and Point. Oh but Point hasn't established himself yet? His career high is 3 points less than Matthews

 

[Skolman]

Scheif is going to be recognized as a top 5 C in the league rather soon.. pay attention. Point is very good but not at that level yet.

And McDavid is the best player in the world at the age of 21 yrs old, and has already won 2 Art Ross trophies. Pay attention.

I never said Point was at Scheifele's level, just like Matthews isn't at McDavid's level

 

[Spirit of 67]

You make zero sense.

The fact you said there's "not remotely an arguement here" when it comes to McDavid vs Scheifele X2, but make somewhat of a arguement when it comes to Matthews vs Point X2 just shows your bias.

Also, like Ricky said. The gap between McDavid and Matthews is just as big as the one between Schefele and Point. Oh but Point hasn't established himself yet? His career high is 3 points less than Matthews

You're just wrong.

I realize you hate the Leafs and Leafs fans. But my argument is perfectly valid.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

If you are rebuilding you take the McDavid and hope he carries you to being good.

Otherwise it’s scheifele easily

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

2 Scheiffeles

Really depends on the 2C with McDavid

2 Scheffeles > McDavid And Bozak for example

 

[Puckstuff]

Easily Mark squared

McDavid + Duchene Vs Tavares + Schiefiele

This would be closer

 

[Tryblot]

It's much "easier" to acquire a scheifele

Yeah the league is full of ppg centres
At 6 mil lol

Much easier to acquire than the best player in the world right now? Yes, absolutely.

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

And McDavid is the best player in the world at the age of 21 yrs old, and has already won 2 Art Ross trophies. Pay attention.

I never said Point was at Scheifele's level, just like Matthews isn't at McDavid's level

Well what was the point of bringing up Matthews/Point then? Imo the difference between Scheif and Point is much larger than McDavid and Matthews. 3 are #1 centers and one is a #2 center who can still prove to be a #1. Not really comparable.

 

[ijuka]

McDavid.

The salary can be taken from the 4th liners and the bottom pairing, the 2C can still be good.