Prospect Info: Olli Juolevi, Pt. VII | "Not A Tkachuk Thread" Edition | WJC postmortem

[Jay Cee]

I know it's but Sergachev or but Tkachuk but Juolevi is scoring at a pace that would put him in top 3 Liiga scoring for dmen. He is on track, the question is how is that step to the NHL going to look. He is only 19 years old and a dman who whose bread and butter is his complete game, which is hard to do in the NHL at 19 for a dman.

 

[racerjoe]

I know it's but Sergachev or but Tkachuk but Juolevi is scoring at a pace that would put him in top 3 Liiga scoring. He is on track, the question is how is that step to the NHL going to look. He is only 19 years old and a dman who whose bread and butter is his complete game, which is hard to do in the NHL at 19 for a dman.

You know what I haven't seem is how comparables in that league do. I would be interested to see what other NHL dmen have done in that league and when in their development.

 

[krutovsdonut]

what an original thought that hasn’t been shared before, do go on

at the exact moment you posted that new standard for discourse a shiver ran through the hearts of all the regulars in the management thread.

 

[me2]

You know what I haven't seem is how comparables in that league do. I would be interested to see what other NHL dmen have done in that league and when in their development.

Draft year

Ristolainen was 3-12-15 in 52 (last finnish season)


D+1

Markus Nutivaara (50 6-16-22), D+2 NHL


D+2

Sami Vatanen (52 games 11-20-31), D+3 42 in 49.

Essa Lindell (44 games 2-3-5), D+3 = 14-21-35 in 57


His numbers are comparable to Vatanen and Vatanen had one of the highest scoring seasons by a 19yo D.
19-Year Old Liiga Players - Regular Season Stats


His numbers look fine. Granlund (ours) put up .6ppg at D+2, he's a forward but it's not a bad comparison points wise. The real issue is the limited number of games, we are only talking about 14 points. ie Sbisa got a lot of points at the start of the year but has regressed to mean (only 2 points in his last 16 games or something like that). 14 points could just be a handful of bounces going your way, or it might unlucky it's not more. Comparisons with such small amounts are hard to gauge accurately.

 

[racerjoe]

Draft year

Ristolainen was 3-12-15 in 52 (last finnish season)


D+1

Markus Nutivaara (50 6-16-22), D+2 NHL


D+2

Sami Vatanen (52 games 11-20-31), D+3 42 in 49.

Essa Lindell (44 games 2-3-5), D+3 = 14-21-35 in 57


His numbers are comparable to Vatanen and Vatanen had one of the highest scoring seasons by a 19yo D.
19-Year Old Liiga Players - Regular Season Stats


His numbers look fine. Granlund (ours) put up .6ppg at D+2, he's a forward but it's not a bad comparison points wise. The real issue is the limited number of games, we are only talking about 14 points. ie Sbisa got a lot of points at the start of the year but has regressed to mean (only 2 points in his last 16 games or something like that). 14 points could just be a handful of bounces going your way, or it might unlucky it's not more. Comparisons with such small amounts are hard to gauge accurately.

Thanks for the info. It is much appreciated, gives a good baseline.

 

[Jack Burton]

Bump

 

[tantalum]

Seems to be in the #7 slot (or #6 with limited icetime) on the Fins blueline in game 1. Likely not where you’d hope him to be playing.

 

[CanaFan]

Seems to be in the #7 slot (or #6 with limited icetime) on the Fins blueline in game 1. Likely not where you’d hope him to be playing.

That’s hard to believe given this is his 3rd tournament and he’s among the oldest players there.

 

[Jack Burton]

Seems to be in the #7 slot (or #6 with limited icetime) on the Fins blueline in game 1. Likely not where you’d hope him to be playing.

I've only seen or heard his name twice so far this period...oh make that 3 times..4:07 left in the 2nd

 

[tantalum]

Seems to be getting more ice this period than the first where it seemed like he only got some PP time. No idea though as I don’t think they track icetime so it might just be impression due to limited touches or something. (Edit: live tracker doesn’t have icetimes but end of game stars will have it I believe...unless I’m missing something).

 

[krutovsdonut]

and no jersey letter. perhaps the rebellion last year has cost him with the finnish junior coaching fraternity.

 

[Brock Boeser]

Seems to be in the #7 slot (or #6 with limited icetime) on the Fins blueline in game 1. Likely not where you’d hope him to be playing.

I’ve watched the last 15 of the period and like all the D he’s playing a regular shift.


If we can draft a proper offensive defenceman id like to pair him with Juolevi, seems like he fits the supporting role well

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Just got home. How's our D-man looking so far for Finland?

 

[tantalum]

I’ve watched the last 15 of the period and like all the D he’s playing a regular shift.

He certainly didn’t seem to be the first 25 minutes of the game...if he was he was very quiet. We will see the ice at the end of the game.

 

[Jack Burton]

Seems to be getting more ice this period than the first where it seemed like he only got some PP time. No idea though as I don’t think they track icetime so it might just be impression due to limited touches or something.

Their tracking ice time

Statistics

Good old Zombotron

 

[Chairman Maouth]

You guys are brutal.

How is Juolevi looking so far?

 

[Jack Burton]

You guys are brutal.

How is Juolevi looking so far?

Non noticeable unless your looking for him.

 

[Peter10]

Havent watch all that closely as i am doing some other stuff but from what I have seen I am happy I have drafted Jokiharju in both of my fantasy leagues. Havent noticed Olli much so far.

 

[Jack Burton]

Jeez that was a good play to prevent a goal in the crease but made a bad defensive play to block a shot...and then just stood there...yikes!

 

[Jack Burton]

This kid loves non event hockey. He tries to keep things so incredibly simple that it's scary.

 

[canucksfan]

Every time I watch him I came away unimpressed.

 

[TruKnyte]

and no jersey letter. perhaps the rebellion last year has cost him with the finnish junior coaching fraternity.

Rebellion?

 

[tantalum]

Apparently a very quiet, big minute night. Somehow at nearly 25 minutes. I’m shocked.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Haven't watched him but how is his actual defensive game? If he is a no offense but all defense guy like Tanev I'm perfectly happy with that! I just don't know what we have here.

 

[VeteranNetPresence]

Eh.. I have been critical of him but he looked fine tonight