No one has said Benning has made zero good moves. He has made a few genuinely good moves, but the problem is that he has a huge laundry list of bad/terrible moves that completely overshadow those few good moves.
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The notion that Benning should be 'forgiven' or that it somehow equals out if we get 2 years of Duchene while we're a bottom feeder out of a top-5 pick is frankly absurd.
Duchene is a good player. He isn't a great player. He had 41 points last year and is generally a 55-60 point guy.
And the risk he doesn't re-sign here is MASSIVE. This is one of the least-desirable destinations in the NHL. The most likely outcome is that we deal a massive futures package for him (the report on CBC was a 2018 first-rounder, Juolevi, and a roster player), miss the playoffs twice with him in our lineup, then watch as he leaves in 2019 to sign for an east coast playoff team. Which would be a complete disaster.
This would be a move that reeked of utter desperation.
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That would be a bad move to make right now, but could maybe be feasible next summer if Henrik retires and Duchene came with an extension agreed upon. But even then it's probably going to take an 8x8 contract to sign him, and I'd be pretty damn nervous giving out a contract like that with the current state of our team.
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The only way I would be okay with Duchene is if we flipped him at the deadline to a contender for a big haul.
Colorado wants a decent amount more than just a d-man like Juolevi for Duchene, and that kind of move would be a big risk. Getting a better return later in the season/next season when he's closer to being a UFA isn't really likely if Colorado isn't getting those offers right now. There's also the risk of Duchene getting injured/tanking his value.
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A 21-22 year old Duchene makes sense and I’d easily move Juolevi+ for him. A 27 year old Duchene makes zero sense and would only gut what little progress we’ve made on this “rebuild” in favour of chasing wildcard spots for the next 4-5 years.
Big pass.
Big pass.
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Certainly not opposed to moving Juolevi but for a team that's rebuilding trading for Duchene would be the exact opposite of what we should do. So, I expect we'll hear a confirmation on this trade any day now.
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Yeah, he may not be looking like the right pick but that doesn’t mean you have to move him.
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Because trading massive futures packages for 26-27 y/o players is stupid when you should be rebuilding.
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That's very cool and all, but what did it accomplish? Nothing? Alright.
Benning' bad moves far outweigh anything good he has done. Virtanen and Juolevi are living proof. Those picks will set us back years.
Sven Baertschi and f***ing Markus Granlund don't make up for that.
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Does Duchene make us a contender? Is he guaranteed to be a long term asset?
No. So I have zero interest in moving a significant futures package for him
No. So I have zero interest in moving a significant futures package for him
Duchene is a great player, but not elite - elite players can shoulder a team, MD cannot.
He's gonna be UFA in less than two years, will likely ask for something like 7mil per year for 7 years, and Avalanche will demand a package with a 1st round pick, a top prospect, plus a good player, maybe more.
No, I wouldn't even think about touching that.
He's gonna be UFA in less than two years, will likely ask for something like 7mil per year for 7 years, and Avalanche will demand a package with a 1st round pick, a top prospect, plus a good player, maybe more.
No, I wouldn't even think about touching that.
I don't think this point is getting through.
Apparently not.
Like, if I was the Carolina Hurricanes I'd be all over Duchene. They have a team coming out of a rebuild with obscene young depth on D but lack gamebreaking talent up front. He'd be an ideal target to help put them over the top back into a quality playoff team.
This team? No freaking way. We're essentially at the low ebb of a rebuild (masked by our summer FA binge) and are at least 4-5 years from being legit contenders. We are literally the last team in the league that should be throwing a massive futures package at a guy who is a UFA in less than 2 years.
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It's typical that Sergachev is turning into exactly what we ever needed in a d-man and Juolevi is struggling in the Finnish league.
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Really? You're that swayed by a big name?
Firstly, if we do this trade it means there was never a rebuild. Anyone who bought into that BS should just stop now.
Second, if this happens I truly hope Duchene walks as a UFA.
OJ and Sutter? Who would be the roster player? what does Colorado want? We do not have many roster players worth much. Most are replaceable if not redundant. No high picks please. I like Sven and Grandlund we do not have much d to trade. The positive is we do not have much to trade really. For OJ and any vet forward it would not be terrible, but really should not considered multiple prospects and picks. Only trade OJ if you think he is unlikely to develop.
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