I totally agree, and I don't know that the McDonagh trade was more than a one year trade. He brings a lot of value, for sure.
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BigFatCat999
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He’s better all-around. More calm under pressure, better decision-making with the puck and stronger defensively.
Fabbro is a better skater than Carrier. He doesn't have the quickness of Carrier in his first three steps going forward but everything about his edges while skating backwards and his leverage while in physical battles is better.
On the current roster they are somewhat even in pros and cons but very different players. I don't think it is in anyway a stretch to see Fabbro as having the higher potential and impact in future years.
On the current roster they are somewhat even in pros and cons but very different players. I don't think it is in anyway a stretch to see Fabbro as having the higher potential and impact in future years.
I'd say his positioning overall, his responsibility overall and his play away from the puck overall is better. He plays one on one defense better and is better on odd man rushes. He still has the glaring turnover on occasion that leads to the "Fabbro sucks" from the local mics.
Carrier is better with the puck on his stick, has more confidence with the puck and is probably the better quarterback. However, Carrier is constantly out of position, leaves his partner on an island often as he gets caught up ice and is weak on the boards
Porter Stoutheart
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Fabbro is better in front of the net?
Overall, I'd say neither are stellar there but I'd give Fabbro the edge.
I'll give it to Carrier that he is a battler in front of the net, he will grind it out but he has trouble getting the leverage to get the job done sometimes which leads to the player he's battling still get his stick on the puck in and around the crease to much.
BigFatCat999
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My eyes are to the Time on Ice. Carrier is getting on average 3:30 minutes more a game, he's paired with Josi, he's getting a wider variety of situations; EV, PP, PK. The reason why I call him 'Poor man's Ekholm' is his usage break down is similar to Ekholm's. Similar even strength time, similar PP time, similar PK time. I'm going to do a breakdown of Carrier's TOI vs. Ekholm's TOI at age 25. I'll post what I see here.
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Sample size?
Last season Fabbro had more even strength time on ice than Carrier but Fabbro didn't play much special teams.
This season, they've played 2 games.
Fabbro is now anchoring a line for the first time in his career, he's also getting pk time for the first time in his career. Even if it's the 3rd pairing, he's the anchor and that's something Carrier has yet to do.
Carrier and Ekholm couldn't be more different, no matter what their TOI is.
Carrier isn't going to grow 5 inches and 40 pounds of muscle anytime soon....
BigFatCat999
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Not the size of the dog in a fight...
Unless you are Barry Bonds and you freebase HGH till your head is the size of the Goodyear Blimp.
101st_fan
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BigFatCat999
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RABBIT
wasn’t gonna be a fan but Utalked me into it
Ingram seemed to show some promise intermittently through his ups and downs and we all thought he was on track as the Preds backup for this season but it seems that the Saros injury that forced Ingram into the starters roll in the playoffs revealed something management didn't like.
Other than he was sort of just, meh, in the playoffs we as fans really had no idea he was on the way out until the Lankinen signing happened.
Other than he was sort of just, meh, in the playoffs we as fans really had no idea he was on the way out until the Lankinen signing happened.
BigFatCat999
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We knew a move had to be made. Porter nailed it when the Preseason started when he said; 'The Preds are going to give him up to 'a good home.' This isn't Europe where teams have 3 goalies. Just take care of him, he's a good kid.
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He's much better than Vejjie. But that's not saying much.
I think he's coming along, but he's not ready for prime time. He''s not going to take over any games for you guys any day soon.
Porter Stoutheart
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He has definitely earned the chance. He has crushed the AHL over multiple seasons, and earned the 1-way deal the Preds had projected him to for this season.
The NHL mindset might not like that he's smart/a bit of a smart-ass? I don't know how far we can speculate/reach down some of those corridors as fans-in-the-peanut-gallery. He has had some "off-ice adventures and personal issues" in the past, let's say. But his play speaks for itself.
We haven't actually seen him play a lot in Nashville. To me, on a relatively small sample, I would say that he looks like a guy who is technically sound, judges his angles very well, plays his position intelligently, and despite maybe being slightly undersized by modern goaltending standards you would never really guess that, because everything sort of "just hits him in the chest" when he's on. He is not super-athletic or endowed with marvelous reflexes or physical superpowers. But he understands how to play the position. At an above-average level.
So who really knows... he is ready for this challenge. To me, if he's the goalie behind a solid D, he'll absolutely excel. A lot of his AHL teams have been very good, actually. If he's "challenged" behind a weak team... well that might be interesting. I guess that is what we'll find out. It is the right time for him to try his hand at the NHL level anyway. If your team really sucks bad... maybe that won't be quite ideal for him. But it's still his big chance, and better than being in the AHL again. For him, it's the right time. I wouldn't bet money on him sticking, nor bet against him. It's up in the air.
YMMV, just my $.02 from relatively limited viewing.
RABBIT
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Thanks guys! Best of luck to you all this year
We got ingram for essentially free from tampa. He then had a great season in Milwaukee. Covid hit and he played a little overseas where his team got hit with a scandle for possibly throwing a game. He came back and entered the player assistance program. Got out of that and played some ahl games in Chicago. Didnt do great and then i cant remember if he got injured or not. Last season he spent most his time in Milwaukee and had a decent season. Got called up after saros went down and did meh in the regular season before having a pretty good playoff run. Went back to ahl after we were out and was majorly outplayed in the playoffs by Cooley. He was just outplayed by Lankinen in the preseason. I wish him the best but hes been very up and down. There's a nhl caliber backup in there if he can work on consistency. Wish him the best.
AintLifeGrand
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this - he gets looked at with rose colored glasses bc of his battle with adversity and the destigmatization and push for more transparency regarding mental illness which is popular in the current zeitgeist. from
a pure hockey perspective , there is no loss
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Unfortunate, would've hoped he could get his career together here but with Askarov down in MIL I don't think the Preds are worried about losing him. A fresh start might do him a world of good.
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