Speculation: Off-Season Roster Building/Line Combos Thread

A Star is Burns

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Didn't we have a Picard on the roster before? That didn't go well, right?
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I think we know why Darling failed last year. No training, unhealthy eating, badly out of shape, etc...
All those things have been removed from the equation.
So why would you think the same things are going to happen when there's nothing to cause them to happen anymore?
Well, for starters, it assumes those things were 100% of his problem. Even if I were to allow myself to believe that Darling is going to be solid this year, I would not allow myself to believe that he has rid himself of 100% of the problems with his goaltending by eliminating the things you mention. For example, I don't believe those things would adversely affect his ability to skate from post to post.
 

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We just need Darling to not be terrible this year to have a shot at taking the next step. From what I've seen in the preseason, he looks average at worst. With the defense we have in front of him, assuming he's not out long-term, I am comfortable going through this season with what we have and then reassessing next year when the FA goalie crop will be ripe.
 

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Well, for starters, it assumes those things were 100% of his problem. Even if I were to allow myself to believe that Darling is going to be solid this year, I would not allow myself to believe that he has rid himself of 100% of the problems with his goaltending by eliminating the things you mention. For example, I don't believe those things would adversely affect his ability to skate from post to post.
You don't think that being overweight and out of shape effected his ability to follow a puck post to post in the NHL over the course of a 82 game season where you rarely get more than 48 hours to recover? That's a tough schedule even for guys in peak condition.
 

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Well, for starters, it assumes those things were 100% of his problem. Even if I were to allow myself to believe that Darling is going to be solid this year, I would not allow myself to believe that he has rid himself of 100% of the problems with his goaltending by eliminating the things you mention. For example, I don't believe those things would adversely affect his ability to skate from post to post.
I think he's looked alright getting from post to post, but his puck tracking in the pre-season has still seemed suspect to me. I'm not going to write him off based on how he played this pre-season, but I'm also not going to chalk his pre-season up as more than a small sample size. We had times last year where he'd look like a world beater and then put up an unbelievably putrid performance the next game (Columbus followed by Toronto anyone?).
 

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No, I don't believe conditioning has anything to do with pushing off of your left skate, sliding across the crease on your pads, and blowing out well wide of the right post into no-man's land.

Perhaps my descriptor of "post to post" is off...maybe it's "puck tracking". Not sure what that's called in goalie jargon, but fitness has little to do with that physical feat.
 

RodTheBawd

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I think we know why Darling failed last year. No training, unhealthy eating, badly out of shape, etc...
All those things have been removed from the equation.
So why would you think the same things are going to happen when there's nothing to cause them to happen anymore?

There's a world of difference between saying he's going to be good and saying he's going to be better than last year. I can buy into the latter, not the former.

And to Dave's point, his puck tracking is still atrocious. I will echo someone earlier that said his rebound control has looked significantly improved, buuuuut sample size.
 

tarheelhockey

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No, I don't believe conditioning has anything to do with pushing off of your left skate, sliding across the crease on your pads, and blowing out well wide of the right post into no-man's land.

Perhaps my descriptor of "post to post" is off...maybe it's "puck tracking". Not sure what that's called in goalie jargon, but fitness has little to do with that physical feat.

Frankly it's just pure body control. Goalie fundamentals. The stuff Darling was doing last year was the goalie equivalent of a skater going full speed, forgetting how to stop, bailing by making a super wide turn, and crashing into the side boards. Like, you can't even coach your way out of that. You just shake your head and wonder what the hell.
 

NotOpie

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Frankly it's just pure body control. Goalie fundamentals. The stuff Darling was doing last year was the goalie equivalent of a skater going full speed, forgetting how to stop, bailing by making a super wide turn, and crashing into the side boards. Like, you can't even coach your way out of that. You just shake your head and wonder what the hell.
You just described my "go to" ice skating move.
 

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