Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season IV: Off-season progression! (Lockout over: Jays acquire Chapman for 4 prospects!)

[The Nemesis]

Previous thread:

Blue Jays Discussion: - Off-Season III: Ray/Semien out, Gausman in. Jays linked to everyone. Labor strife happening.

Also Joe West retired, there's a positive start to this thread.

That news prompts this fun from Ferguson Jenkins:



When a classy guy like Fergie roasts you, that's a pretty strong indictment of where you stand.

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[ShaneFalco]

So what do you see happening with the strike?

 

[habamillions]

It will definitely take out some spring games. Probably wont get serious until mid march imo. The mlbpa and the mlb are not close at all right now. Cant even agree on mediation help

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

So what do you see happening with the strike?

Joe west will call it a ball

 

[phillipmike]

 

[phillipmike]

Blue Jay reunion at Devon Travis' wedding

 

[thehockeysong]

Surprised he has the Jays so high. He must be a big believer that a guy like Hoglund is a sure bet and that orelvis, Moreno and the other position players have star upside.

 

[metafour]

5. Toronto Blue Jays

Last year: No. 3

The Blue Jays have quietly become powerhouses on the international free-agency front, hitting repeatedly on big-dollar signees – current prospects Orelvis Martinez, Miguel Hiraldo and Leo Jimenez, and of course Vladimir Guerrero Jr. – as well as smaller bonus guys like Gabriel Moreno, Sem Robberse and Otto Lopez. They’ve supplemented with some solid drafts, with their first pick from 2020, Austin Martin, since traded to Minnesota to land José Berríos. Their first two picks from 2021, Gunnar Hoglund, who’s coming off Tommy John surgery, and Ricky Tiedemann, who was throwing quite a bit harder in instructs, both look like they’ll be big risers for 2022, as well. There’s quite a bit of position player depth here – Cleveland might be the only team with more depth on the left side of its infield – with its next wave of pitching probably two years off.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Surprised he has the Jays so high. He must be a big believer that a guy like Hoglund is a sure bet and that orelvis, Moreno and the other position players have star upside.

I don't think he was super high on either Martin or SWR and he seems to be pretty high on a lot of our lower level guys. Combination of those two things would lead to him having us higher then most I guess.

 

[The Nemesis]

Blue Jay reunion at Devon Travis' wedding

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Is that Ryan Goins in the background? Did Devon ask Stroman if it was OK to seat him in the back, away from the group like that?

also I can't identify everyone in this picture. Who's that between Borucki and Estrada? And between Travis and Pillar?

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Is that Ryan Goins in the background? Did Devon ask Stroman if it was OK to seat him in the back, away from the group like that?

also I can't identify everyone in this picture. Who's that between Borucki and Estrada? And between Travis and Pillar?

i wanna say bonificaio and grichuck

 

[The Nemesis]

i wanna say bonificaio and grichuck

Yeah, the right one is Grichuk. I see it now.

 

[Eyedea]

Is that Ryan Goins in the background? Did Devon ask Stroman if it was OK to seat him in the back, away from the group like that?

also I can't identify everyone in this picture. Who's that between Borucki and Estrada? And between Travis and Pillar?

Dwight Smith Jr

 

[phillipmike]

Surprised he has the Jays so high. He must be a big believer that a guy like Hoglund is a sure bet and that orelvis, Moreno and the other position players have star upside.

I’m higher on the Jays system than most (I have them in the top 10) and even I was surprised to see them this high. The key with Law is he loves youth/IFA/athletic SS types (which we knew we have a lot of) and depth which is even better news because I thought the book on the Jays system was they had blue chip talent but no depth.

So good news all around if Law’s list comes to fruition

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Blue Jay reunion at Devon Travis' wedding

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Love seeing the boys so close still many years later.

It was a special team/time those years.

 

[canucksfan]

Love seeing the boys so close still many years later.

It was a special team/time those years.

Should have won the WS. Royals got lucky.

 

[TGB]

It will definitely take out some spring games. Probably wont get serious until mid march imo. The mlbpa and the mlb are not close at all right now. Cant even agree on mediation help

According to Shi Davidi in one of McCown's interviews, the MLPBA have dropped a bunch of demands, so, while there are a few sticklers, it's not this great wall of tenable demands that it was at the beginning. I'm sure some time will still be missed, but it's looking like the lockout is leaning more towards a "normal" negotiation window rather than some season gobbling thing, or at least as normal as one can expect from these things.

 

[phillipmike]

Every team’s most surprising record holder

14) Duane Ward has the Blue Jays’ single-season saves record (45 in 1993)
Ward was a durable and dependable late-inning arm for the Blue Jays in the late 1980s and early 1990s. So the surprise is less that he had a 45-save season (leading the league in ’93) but rather that this is the only 40-save season in franchise history. The Blue Jays are the only team that has not had multiple 40-save seasons. Franchise saves leader Tom Henke (217) never had more than 34 saves in any one year with Toronto.

 

[BigBlu]

Every team’s most surprising record holder

Could have sworn it was Bill Caudill..

 

[Cor]

I really want this lockout to end.

I’m so excited for the rest of the off-season and this season.

US is fully open. Canada should be there by the time the season rolls around. MLB can’t lose this season to a lockout. Would be more devastating than the 1994 lockout IMO

 

[Blitzkrug]

MLB 22 is still two months away and Randy Johnson already has a penthouse in my head rent free.

Of all the legends they could have went out and gotten...why did it have to be the god damn Big Unit?

Also curious to see what happens to that game if we get a worst case scenario in terms of the lockout given that game relies a lot of live content based on season performance to keep itself afloat. Legends can only fill up so much given they don't have enough to fill a game with them.

 

[Morgs]

MLB 22 is still two months away and Randy Johnson already has a penthouse in my head rent free.

Of all the legends they could have went out and gotten...why did it have to be the god damn Big Unit?

Also curious to see what happens to that game if we get a worst case scenario in terms of the lockout given that game relies a lot of live content based on season performance to keep itself afloat. Legends can only fill up so much given they don't have enough to fill a game with them.

SDS crushed TS20 when they missed the first few months of the season. Instead of POTM cards, they used ones from past games that people loved in each months past. The whole investing is such a nice change from HUT, but it also makes it way harder for casuals to get the end game cards if it's not available.

As for Randy.... it's gonna be a mess man. I have enough trouble hitting lefties in general in that game.... it just better not be Kluber-levels of f***ed up early on.

 

[Blitzkrug]

The worst part is given how attainable SDS likes to make legends who are available for the first time, damn near everyone will have Johnson in their rotation. Just like 20 Kluber and DeGrom last year.

Might just skip out this year lol.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I just play Franchise and RTTS.

 

[Morgs]

I just play Franchise and RTTS.

You're missing out. DD is the best sports game mode out there. Even if you can't handle the sweatyness of ranked (I can't for extended stretches), there's still so much to do offline/online at all times.