They really that close to the 50 contract limit?I think Kalynuk and Lazar were basically 'contract dumps' by the Canucks. Clearing the deck for some NCAA free agent signings I'd guess.
Livingston and McDonough would be 'big time gets' by the Canucks. McDonough is having a career season at Northeastern, and is carrying a team that wasn't projected to do much at the start of the season. A total of 19 goals and 36 points in 31 games.
Canucks should be an attractive destination for NCAA UFA's, particularly d-men. The Canuck blueline is basically wide open after Hughes and Hronek.
On the right side, there's now Hronek, Bear, and Myers signed for next season (well, Bear's an RFA). I know many expect Myers to be moved after his bonus is paid, but I doubt it, and in any case it can't happen till some time after the NCAA free agents can be signed. Suddenly it might not look to Livingston that there's an obvious spot for him in the top six.Canucks should be an attractive destination for NCAA UFA's, particularly d-men. The Canuck blueline is basically wide open after Hughes and Hronek.
They really that close to the 50 contract limit?
That makes sense.After scratching my head on this one for a bit, I'm wondering if - given the close working relationship they have with Milstein - Kalynuk asked for a trade when he was passed over for a callup when all of Wolanin/Brisebois/Juulsen recently went to the NHL and he realized he basically had zero chance of seeing NHL games here, and they obliged by shooting him elsewhere.
I am sure Livingstone's agent is going to understand the Canucks' situation. It's not like he is going in blind or going to capfriendly and taking the roster at face value.On the right side, there's now Hronek, Bear, and Myers signed for next season (well, Bear's an RFA). I know many expect Myers to be moved after his bonus is paid, but I doubt it, and in any case it can't happen till some time after the NCAA free agents can be signed. Suddenly it might not look to Livingston that there's an obvious spot for him in the top six.
As to wingers such as McDonaugh ...
I am pretty sure the limit is always in effect, so it doesn't "reset", player contracts just come off the books on July 1st and whoever remains signed counts towards the limit.They are at 44 now so no, they already had done a good job of removing contracts.
I’m curious when the contract limit resets. Is it July 1st or does it become a soft cap in the off-season.
i'm not very high on livingstone. his skating is nowhere near nhl level and he's probably too old to do much meaningful work on it. he reminds me a lot of matt kiersted who is only one year older but has been trying to crack the panthers roster and failing for a couple seasons now
he's still worth a contract because he's got size and who knows maybe that's enough but if i were the canucks i'd be working on signing bear and scouting free agent defenders with some pk ability and bottom pairing potential
How do you think the agent will assess the Canucks' right side depth and the opportunity for Livingstone? Will he assume that Myers will be gone next season and that there will be an opportunity on the third pairing? Will he think that the Canucks won't re-sign Bear?I am sure Livingstone's agent is going to understand the Canucks' situation. It's not like he is going in blind or going to capfriendly and taking the roster at face value.
I am pretty sure the limit is always in effect, so it doesn't "reset", player contracts just come off the books on July 1st and whoever remains signed counts towards the limit.
by god that's troy stecher's musicscouting free agent defenders with some pk ability and bottom pairing potential
He will assume Myers is one and done at best, potentially moved in the summer. It's not like the insight floated around here is a secret.How do you think the agent will assess the Canucks' right side depth and the opportunity for Livingstone? Will he assume that Myers will be gone next season and that there will be an opportunity on the third pairing? Will he think that the Canucks won't re-sign Bear?
No word yet here of the corresponding Hartford Abbotsford trade, where the baby Nucks recouped a similar (right shot) defenseman?
Teams can sign ELCs now that don't start until next season. As of March 1st there's the option of ELCs starting this season or next.They are at 44 now so no, they already had done a good job of removing contracts.
I’m curious when the contract limit resets. Is it July 1st or does it become a soft cap in the off-season.
That makes more sense than the Canucks giving away a solid Abbotsford defenseman for nothing.No word yet here of the corresponding Hartford Abbotsford trade, where the baby Nucks recouped a similar (right shot) defenseman?
That makes more sense than the Canucks giving away a solid Abbotsford defenseman for nothing.
The "insight" around here is mainly wishful thinking: someone will take Myers after his bonus is paid. If Myers stays, that's three veterans on the right side next season, at least for a year. That's not quite the opportunity that would have been available if Hronek hadn't been acquired and if Bear had been traded.He will assume Myers is one and done at best, potentially moved in the summer. It's not like the insight floated around here is a secret.
That's a great position to find oneself in. Bear does not have some immovable spot in the roster. Myers is toast and Livingstone probably jumps him on the depth chart the day he signs, regardless of how next season goes. The only truly established player Livingstone has to compete with is a recently-acquire Hronek, and you get to sign close to home? Worst case scenario you see some time in Abbotsford - not getting shipped halfway across the country for half the season. If Livingstone is worried about playing opportunity there are far worse choices than Vancouver at this juncture. Very few teams are going to promise him PP1 the day he signs. Even the Sharks - who are notoriously short on dmen prospects - would still have Karlsson or even the newly-acquired Thrun to contend with. Honestly if I were Livingstone I'd be more concerned with how Troy Stecher was treated here.The "insight" around here is mainly wishful thinking: someone will take Myers after his bonus is paid. If Myers stays, that's three veterans on the right side next season, at least for a year. That's not quite the opportunity that would have been available if Hronek hadn't been acquired and if Bear had been traded.
One and done for Myers seems likely. Is that the selling point for Livingstone: after only one year, there'll be a spot for you on the bottom pair, unless management acquires another vet for that wild two-year all-in push for cup contention?
I don't think Livingstone is going to see it that way. Maybe he'll sign anyway, but if he believes Myers is going to sit in the press box while he plays on the bottom pair, I'd call his thinking optimistic.That's a great position to find oneself in. Bear does not have some immovable spot in the roster. Myers is toast and Livingstone probably jumps him on the depth chart the day he signs, regardless of how next season goes. The only truly established player Livingstone has to compete with is a recently-acquire Hronek, and you get to sign close to home? Worst case scenario you see some time in Abbotsford - not getting shipped halfway across the country for half the season. If Livingstone is worried about playing opportunity there are far worse choices than Vancouver at this juncture. Very few teams are going to promise him PP1 the day he signs. Even the Sharks - who are notoriously short on dmen prospects - would still have Karlsson or even the newly-acquired Thrun to contend with. Honestly if I were Livingstone I'd be more concerned with how Troy Stecher was treated here.