Speculation: NYR-LAK trading

[Reaper45]

The Rangers are going to make Miller unavailable in Jack Eichel talks. You can’t be serious with this.

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Hey that's cool, good for them. Not concerned about that.

 

[JKG33]

Oh great, this thread again.

Byfield for Laf, if not gtfo.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Hey that's cool, good for them. Not concerned about that.

Ok, so don’t post bad deals then and when they get turned down, respond like this?

If he’s not available for Eichel, he’s certainly not available for a prospect like Kupari.

 

[KingTech]

Here we go again. The kings will wait most likely till they have a idea what our prospects can do in the nhl Ranger fans need to figure out what defensive prospects are available and get back to us. See u in the summer of 23 or 24

 

[JKG33]

Ok, so don’t post bad deals then and when they get turned down, respond like this?

If he’s not available for Eichel, he’s certainly not available for a prospect like Kupari.

Hey the Ranger fans are the ones hitting up the Kings constantly, not the other way around. We don't care who you would or wouldn't trade for Eichel

 

[TGWL]

This again? I’d do Kupari for Miller. If NYR balks I get it and say thanks anyways.

Kupari is most likely the target if a trade were to happen. I can't see Kings parting with Turcotte anytime soon, and Byfield isn't going anywhere. Right now, Rangers would have to pass on dealing Miller for Kupari. Maybe there's something down the road but that's a bit hefty for NYR to part with right now. I honestly don't believe we'll see all these prospects on defense for us, so eventually there will be some odd man out players dealt to fill other positions.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Hey the Ranger fans are the ones hitting up the Kings constantly, not the other way around. We don't care who you would or wouldn't trade for Eichel

Last I checked, Reaper45 is a Kings fan, but thanks for your input that I don’t really care for.

 

[Reaper45]

Ok, so don’t post bad deals then and when they get turned down, respond like this?

If he’s not available for Eichel, he’s certainly not available for a prospect like Kupari.

Your assuming I knew he wouldn’t be part of an Eichel deal. I literally said Kupari for Miller is the most I’d do and if the rangers say no I get it. No skin off my nose if you think it’s a bad deal, hence my response. And it probably is but Kings fans aren’t ready to deal any centers quite yet outside of maybe Madden, Kupari or Thomas. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

 

[bernmeister]

Hey the Ranger fans are the ones hitting up the Kings constantly, not the other way around. We don't care who you would or wouldn't trade for Eichel

not all of us

 

[JKG33]

Last I checked, Reaper45 is a Kings fan, but thanks for your input that I don’t really care for.

And who's the OP? Oh right, Rags fan. Ya'll keep starting garbage threads, and then whine when Kings fans name the price. We don't care about getting a deal done

 

[EK392000]

Seems like the same could be said for LAK and OTT. Ottawa already has Chabot and two more LD (Brannstrom, Sanderson) with tons of potential. LA has a boatload of C prospects (Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi, Kupari, Anderson-Dolan). From an outsider, it looks like the LA prospect pool, though amazing, lacks some quality defensemen prospects, and the Sens could use a quality C prospect. There is a trade to be had here, more so than between LA and New York given contention timelines.

EDIT: Now that I think about, Ottawa doesn't really need any position. They have Norris at C, Stutzle at C if they want, and Pinto coming up at C in the near future. If Murray can bounce back, their lineup won't have a conceivable hole in it if all these guys reach or at least come close to their potential.

 

[Boondock]

The Kings could definitely use high end defensive players in their prospect pool but they are pretty set 2nd and 3rd pairing players as it sits right now.
Kings RHD: Doughty (top 4 signed for 6 more years); Roy (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Walker (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Spencer (bottom 4 NHL potential); Faber (bottom 4 potential); Strand (bottom 4 potential)
Kings LHD: Anderson (bottom 4); Bjornfot (top 4 potential); Clague (bottom 4 potential)

So unless the player coming back is a sure fire top pairing dman there is no reason for Kings to trade away top 6 Centers. Lundkvist and Miller have that potential but I don't see Robertson or Schneider carrying that type of value.

 

[Kurrilino]

lol, this is getting out of control exactly like the last thread.
Maybe it's time for a new one

 

[Kurrilino]

The Kings could definitely use high end defensive players in their prospect pool but they are pretty set 2nd and 3rd pairing players as it sits right now.
Kings RHD: Doughty (top 4 signed for 6 more years); Roy (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Walker (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Spencer (bottom 4 NHL potential); Faber (bottom 4 potential); Strand (bottom 4 potential)
Kings LHD: Anderson (bottom 4); Bjornfot (top 4 potential); Clague (bottom 4 potential)

So unless the player coming back is a sure fire top pairing dman there is no reason for Kings to trade away top 6 Centers. Lundkvist and Miller have that potential but I don't see Robertson or Schneider carrying that type of value.

So Anderson, a rookie who plays top minutes with Doughty, thrown into any kind of situation and looking rock solid doing so, has bottom 4 potential.....

Alright then

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Same as last week--both teams will likely wait to see what they have before they start trading to fill needs. Trade to complete, not to build.

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

The Kings could definitely use high end defensive players in their prospect pool but they are pretty set 2nd and 3rd pairing players as it sits right now.
Kings RHD: Doughty (top 4 signed for 6 more years); Roy (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Walker (bottom 4 signed for 3 more years); Spencer (bottom 4 NHL potential); Faber (bottom 4 potential); Strand (bottom 4 potential)
Kings LHD: Anderson (bottom 4); Bjornfot (top 4 potential); Clague (bottom 4 potential)

So unless the player coming back is a sure fire top pairing dman there is no reason for Kings to trade away top 6 Centers. Lundkvist and Miller have that potential but I don't see Robertson or Schneider carrying that type of value.

You also have Zac Jones as a potential

 

[SML2]

This is a bad plan. It's like sitting at a poker table and trading your hole cards with another player before you look at them.

 

[cwede]

This again? I’d do Kupari for Miller. If NYR balks I get it and say thanks anyways.

Kupari for Robertson is genuinely fair, if LA wanted to move a high end C prospect for a high end D prospect
i get that no one is familiar w all prospects
And I'm fine w Matthew staying w NYR

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

Oh great, this thread again.

Byfield for Laf, if not gtfo.

both players are not even a full year d+1 if we wanted Byfield instead of Lafreniere, we would have drafted him.

Neither player's value has changed very much over the last 6 months, so no I will not trade a 1st overall for a 2nd overall straight up.

 

[DatDude44]

Right, I must have missed how proven Turcotte is in the NHL.

They’re both unproven....one was 5th overall, one was 28th...... you’d really feel comfortable trading the 5th for the 28th before either one has proven anything in pro hockey in North America?

 

[Boondock]

So Anderson, a rookie who plays top minutes with Doughty, thrown into any kind of situation and looking rock solid doing so, has bottom 4 potential.....

Alright then

Fair enough, it wasn’t intended as a slight, I wanted to make a point without “over valuing” if your trading a high end asset such as Turcotte it better be for an upgrade on Anderson.

 

[Rangerboy030]

an unproven late 1st rounder dies not get you a top 5 unless you are dealing with an idiot gm

Post number 5 of the thread and there it is - an unnecessarily backhanded response that will turn the thread into a pissing match about how one team's prospects are the second coming and the other's are unproven lottery tickets.

 

[5cotland]

So unless the player coming back is a sure fire top pairing dman there is no reason for Kings to trade away top 6 Centers. Lundkvist and Miller have that potential but I don't see Robertson or Schneider carrying that type of value.

So, just so I am reading this right.

You will only trade a top 6 centre for a #1 or #2 dman? Seems fair

As for Robertson, he is projected a top 4 dman. Schneider has a much higher ceiling and could become much more.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Kings are prob going to end up 5-10 in draft... which means they are going to have a shot at Hughes, svozil, lambo, evidssson or Clarke. Depending how draft goes.
If anything they use kupari/madden/jad to try and move up a couple spots to grab a dmen in the draft they really like.

 

[One Winged Angel]

And who's the OP? Oh right, Rags fan. Ya'll keep starting garbage threads, and then whine when Kings fans name the price. We don't care about getting a deal done

Irrelevant, as the response as I was responding to was from a Kings fan. Get over it.