Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYR] F Barclay Goodrow signs with the Rangers (6 years, $3.642M AAV)

[TheWayToRefJose]

Goodie was awesome in SJ and was happy to see him be a part of winning 2 cups, but there’s no way I’d be comfortable with signing him to 4m a season, much less for 6 years.

He’s a good defensive forward who is physical and can occasionally chip in a greasy goal, either a decent 3W or 4C, but paying 4 mil to a guy like that isn’t good value.

To put it in perspective, he was playing as SJs 1-2C for a stretch of the season and only scored at a 32 point pace.

 

[cwede]

Is Goodrow that much of an upgrade over Lemieux which they dumped?

Loved the idea of Lemieux when NYR acquired.
But he didn't deliver - didnt distract much, didn't deter much, didn't get noticed much.

Goodrow sure looked like better player during Tampa Cup runs

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Hes a great bottom 6er . You gotta think if hes ready to commit this early that the offer is healthy.

 

[Captain Lindy]

Not going to age well.

The last thing New York needs is more high salaried wingers.

He plays all three forward positions.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Looking forward to the massive overpay for a 3rd liner

 

[TGWL]

I'll throw up if he's over 3M. Spending that sort of money on bottom-6 forwards is how you get in trouble.

Is it? It's not the top 6 players who get over paid and fall back to reality? Or the top 4 d man who end up being cones? Last thing I am worried about is spending on a bottom 9 that can actually play.

 

[burstnbloom]

This is going to be so bad

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Is it? It's not the top 6 players who get over paid and fall back to reality? Or the top 4 d man who end up being cones? Last thing I am worried about is spending on a bottom 9 that can actually play.

its not about the $$, its about the term.

General rule of thumb is that you do not give bottom 6 players longterm contracts

 

[topshelf15]

3.5 to 4 mil for 6 years,term over dollars...Is my guess

 

[Smif]

I'll be really disappointed if he signs before free agency but if its even close to the 4M range than I completely understand him signing now.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

He is 28 and yet to score 10 goals or 25 points... overrated player. Coleman is the one teams should have traded for.

 

[CycloneSweep]

its not about the $$, its about the term.

General rule of thumb is that you do not give bottom 6 players longterm contracts

General rule of thumb is you don't give non elite ufas longer than 4 years

 

[TGWL]

its not about the $$, its about the term.

General rule of thumb is that you do not give bottom 6 players longterm contracts

Yeah but the poster specifically mentioned money, not term.

 

[TGWL]

He is 28 and yet to score 10 goals or 25 points... overrated player. Coleman is the one teams should have traded for.

What makes him overrated? Are you calling him overrated compared to contract he might receive or that he's an overrated player? I don't think Tampa is ruling out Coleman yet. He's probably going to cost more. Rangers don't have a top 9 winger position open yet, and paying that for Coleman to play 4c is a waste. I wanted Coleman, but only if Buch is moved and Chytil or Coleman is taking the wing/3c spot.

 

[BruinsJoe]

2.5 millions not more....more is a mistake!

 

[PAZ]

Goodrow getting traded to Tampa has probably earned him an extra $10-15 mil in career earnings.

I’m a bit confused what the Rags are doing though, this has to be a pre-emptive move, right? Because now they’ll have:

Krieder, Buchnevich, Kakko, Lafreniere, Panarin, Goodrow and to a lesser extent Gauthier, Blackwell, and Kravstov. Another winger seemed like one of the last things they needed.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

I would've wanted Goodrow back, and there's no doubt that some of the skills he does bring are elite, especially in terms of penalty killing and shot blocking. It's hard to find that level of fearlessness. But do I think he's worth $3.5M or more? No. Do I think he's worth a 5-6 year contract? No. I'd rather find the next Goodrow around his previous contract than pay the actual Goodrow this much. It's the point where he goes from a valuable asset to an overvalued asset.

It also makes me wonder just what Coleman's going to get in free agency, too. You'd have to think whatever Goodrow gets, Coleman can do better.

 

[WSS11]

Should be 3Mx3-4 at the absolute most. Love Goodie, great bottom 6 guy and PKer but I think NYR are going to overpay here

 

[Bluto]

Goodrow sure wont have a NMC so if he starts sucking in 3-4 years and he has a 6 year contract, NYR can just bury him in Hartford.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

General rule of thumb is you don't give non elite ufas longer than 4 years

If only somebody told Terry Pegula that.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I came in to ask this. Are teams allowed to sign protected players right now? They should be able to but I’m just not sure how the freeze rules works.

I second this.

 

[Roksta]

Loved the idea of Lemieux when NYR acquired.
But he didn't deliver - didnt distract much, didn't deter much, didn't get noticed much.

Goodrow sure looked like better player during Tampa Cup runs

Ok thanks! Just wanted some info but some of you fellow Rangers fans were a bit rough in their answers lol, haven't really watched Lemieux play

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

What makes him overrated? Are you calling him overrated compared to contract he might receive or that he's an overrated player? I don't think Tampa is ruling out Coleman yet. He's probably going to cost more. Rangers don't have a top 9 winger position open yet, and paying that for Coleman to play 4c is a waste. I wanted Coleman, but only if Buch is moved and Chytil or Coleman is taking the wing/3c spot.

The contract he will receive. I think NYR is overrating him as shown by trading for his rights. He will be overpaid and has leverage now.

 

[LokiDog]

Goodrow getting traded to Tampa has probably earned him an extra $10-15 mil in career earnings.

I’m a bit confused what the Rags are doing though, this has to be a pre-emptive move, right? Because now they’ll have:

Krieder, Buchnevich, Kakko, Lafreniere, Panarin, Goodrow and to a lesser extent Gauthier, Blackwell, and Kravstov. Another winger seemed like one of the last things they needed.

I mean Goodrow’s taken 2500 career faceoffs and is around 50%. It’s not like he can’t play 4C, which the Rangers drastically, drastically needed to improve.

They have Zib who is borderline elite and Strome who can produce but is a liability defensively. Chytil is 3C right now but they’re trying to groom him to takeover 2C. They need a 4C who can take important D zone draws, play the PK, slot up when needed.

If it’s Panarin - Strome - Kravtsov for example, and the line is flat or needs a shot of energy, I can see Goodrow getting double shifted as 4C and Panarin’s opposite wing to do puck retrievals and bring some energy, in the same role Jesper Fast and Colin Blackwell filled the last two years.


He fits the Rangers specific team needs like a glove. In fact he may have more value to the Rangers than he would to other teams based on how precisely he fits their needs.

 

[PAZ]

I mean Goodrow’s taken 2500 career faceoffs and is around 50%. It’s not like he can’t play 4C, which the Rangers drastically, drastically needed to improve.

They have Zib who is borderline elite and Strome who can produce but is a liability defensively. Chytil is 3C right now but they’re trying to groom him to takeover 2C. They need a 4C who can take important D zone draws, play the PK, slot up when needed.

If it’s Panarin - Strome - Kravtsov for example, and the line is flat or needs a shot of energy, I can see Goodrow getting double shifted as 4C and Panarin’s opposite wing to do puck retrievals and bring some energy, in the same role Jesper Fast and Colin Blackwell filled the last two years.


He fits the Rangers specific team needs like a glove. In fact he may have more value to the Rangers than he would to other teams based on how precisely he fits their needs.

Paying your #4C $3-4 mil is quite the premium, especially if it’s a long-term contract as rumoured. Only way it makes sense is if they believe Goodrow can slot into the #3C moving forward.