Nyquist goal

[oilers2k10]

Who do you guys will be better in three years, Nyquist or Brunner?
They are starting to remind me of Datsyuk and Zetterberg when they were rookies amongst Yzerman, Shanahan, Maltby, Chelios, Hull, etc, etc..
Maybe not in playing style, but just in bein two dynamic rookies who came out of nowhere..Redwings are always rebuilding in behind the curtains..

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

Who do you guys will be better in three years, Nyquist or Brunner?
They are starting to remind me of Datsyuk and Zetterberg when they were rookies amongst Yzerman, Shanahan, Maltby, Chelios, Hull, etc, etc..
Maybe not in playing style, but just in bein two dynamic rookies who came out of nowhere..Redwings are always rebuilding in behind the curtains..

Nyquist easily. Brunner is hopefully a 25/25 guy in the next few years while I see Nyquist being a 25-30/40-50 guy.

 

[Audio Outlaw]

Goal aside... That was a great move.

 

[VladTheImpaler]

Who do you guys will be better in three years, Nyquist or Brunner?
They are starting to remind me of Datsyuk and Zetterberg when they were rookies amongst Yzerman, Shanahan, Maltby, Chelios, Hull, etc, etc..
Maybe not in playing style, but just in bein two dynamic rookies who came out of nowhere..Redwings are always rebuilding in behind the curtains..

Nyquist will be the better playmaker by a pretty significant margin while Brunner should be a slightly better goal-scorer. Gus producing 70-75 pts in his prime with Brunner churning out ~60 isn't too unrealistic.

Gus' game seems to be much more suited to be a threat on a more consistent basis.

 

[nik jr]

someone posted in playoffs section this video.

Who do you guys will be better in three years, Nyquist or Brunner?
They are starting to remind me of Datsyuk and Zetterberg when they were rookies amongst Yzerman, Shanahan, Maltby, Chelios, Hull, etc, etc..
Maybe not in playing style, but just in bein two dynamic rookies who came out of nowhere..Redwings are always rebuilding in behind the curtains..

imo, nyquist is already better, and should still be in a few years.

 

[petesrw]

Nyquist will be the better playmaker by a pretty significant margin while Brunner should be a slightly better goal-scorer. Gus producing 70-75 pts in his prime with Brunner churning out ~60 isn't too unrealistic.

Gus' game seems to be much more suited to be a threat on a more consistent basis.

I would not be surprised if Nyquist is the better goal scorer as well. He seems to make a lot more chances on his own than Brunner does. Brunner scored most of his goals playing with Zetterberg, while Nyquist does everything without a better player's help.

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Datsyuk used to be a weak player. What happens if Nyquist can develop the strength of Datsyuk?

 

[silkyjohnson50]

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Datsyuk used to be a weak player. What happens if Nyquist can develop the strength of Datsyuk?

That is the ultimate goal. If he can develop his core strength similar to the way Datsyuk did, he's going to be a legitimate first line type talent IMO. Still a big "if" though.

Datsyuk had/has better pure skill and vision/IQ, but Nyquist probably has the best stick skills on the team otherwise, while still having a good hockey sense and creativity. He also seems to have a real deceptive burst in his skating. In addition, Nyquist has shown some of Datsyuk's defensive stickwork with his takeaway ability.

We could be just seeing the tip of the iceberg with this kid if he continues to develop his body and game. But like I said earlier, those are still some pretty big "ifs".

 

[waltdetroit]

someone posted in playoffs section this video.








imo, nyquist is already better, and should still be in a few years.

in both videos, I just love the little shoulder shake when they get by the defenseman to get the goalie to commit

amazing the likeness between them

 

[petesrw]

That is the ultimate goal. If he can develop his core strength similar to the way Datsyuk did, he's going to be a legitimate first line type talent IMO. Still a big "if" though.

Datsyuk had/has better pure skill and vision/IQ, but Nyquist probably has the best stick skills on the team otherwise, while still having a good hockey sense and creativity. He also seems to have a real deceptive burst in his skating. In addition, Nyquist has shown some of Datsyuk's defensive stickwork with his takeaway ability.

We could be just seeing the tip of the iceberg with this kid if he continues to develop his body and game. But like I said earlier, those are still some pretty big "ifs".

He looks like a first line player right now to me. His only knock is that he can be knocked down (compared to Datsyuk, who basically can't be), but even that isn't stopping him from creating great chances by himself every game. That third line really doesn't need to be touched, but like Babcock did by separating D an Z in game 7, he could throw a curveball one game and do something like put Nyquist with Z all game. There's nothing about Nyquist's game that would make me concerned about such a move. Adding strength would be awesome, but not having it isn't stopping him so far.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

someone posted in playoffs section this video.

Those two goals are so similar its crazy.

 

[Yemack]

in both videos, I just love the little shoulder shake when they get by the defenseman to get the goalie to commit

amazing the likeness between them

the moves are basically carbon copy of each other

but I dont think we have another Z in Nyquist. Z is the ultimate centerman that puts everything together.

Datsyuk and Nyquist have alot of surprise and deception in there game. Z is more of a strategist that oversees the whole ice in smallest detail and does what needs to be done to win. When the game gets tighter and tighter, player like Z shines more and becomes incredibly valuable. And we all know how much skill and will power Z has on top of that.

Nyquist serves more of pure offensive role than Z. Stevie Y and Fedorov were alot more similar to Z in that regard in my humble opinion.

 

[Shawn Lutz]

Nyquist is the first Red Wing player to get me going since Pavel. With Pavel you could see the raw talent and hockey IQ. I see the same with Nyquist. I was bummed when he started the season in Grand Rapids because we got a glimpse of what he could lats season. The puck follows the guy around, he can stick handle out of a crowded phone booth, reads and anticipates play well. He needs to add some strength and conditioning and put on maybe 15 lb more pounds but the kid is going to be a top 6 in this league for a long time if he can stay healthy.

 

[Yemack]

Since he uses mobility as his weapon it be interesting how he is going to get stronger without getting slower much.

I dont think he should put heck alot of upper body muscle all of sudden.

 

[Outl4w]

Nyquist is a young mix of Zetterberg / Datstyuk.

 

[obey86]

i've watched this goal about 100 times now lol.

nyquist has been my favorite prospect for 4-5 years now.

 

[PelagicJoe]

Nyquist is a young mix of Zetterberg / Datstyuk.

I like that description. Our future is looking bright.

 

[LaGu]

Talent aside, which he certainly has, I think that Nyqvist is in one of the best environments possible to develop his game together with Zetterberg and Datsyuk. He could very well develop into the next big steal of the drafts for Detroit.

 

[jaster]

Yeah, that goal was simply fantastic. And I don't even think Seabrook did a terrible job on the play either- he just guessed wrong on what Nyquist was going to do, and then Gus showed more patience than most veteran players in skating/waiting out both Seabrook and Crawford to complete the play.

I'll bet your local watering hole had a fair amount of dudes doing pretty solid imitations of Bickell and Shaw absolutely losing it, too

It was mostly a reasonable crowd that night, but I've seen enough here that I know there were Bickell and Shaw imitations happening all over Chicago haha.

Who do you guys will be better in three years, Nyquist or Brunner?

Nyquist, and easily. Like nik jr, I think he's already better. Both have some development left and adjustments to make, but I think Nyquist will be the more effective player, both offensively and overall, even if Brunner ends up scoring more goals than him. Plus, in 3 years Brunner will be 30 and leaving his prime, while Nyquist will be 26 and in the middle of his.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Loved that goal by Nyquist that was a sweet move he made, And he made Crawford look silly. Even better was Pavs lazer shot over Crawford in and out so fast 2 sweet goals.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Talent aside, which he certainly has, I think that Nyqvist is in one of the best environments possible to develop his game together with Zetterberg and Datsyuk. He could very well develop into the next big steal of the drafts for Detroit.

It's just like what people were clamoring for with Smith. Nyquist gets to play with his idol (Datsyuk) and learn how he does that stuff. He wore 13 in GR for a reason, and wears 14 now for a very good reason.

 

[Hendricks433]

Since he uses mobility as his weapon it be interesting how he is going to get stronger without getting slower much.

I dont think he should put heck alot of upper body muscle all of sudden.

Agred, he doesnt need much more size. Focus on some core strength and learning how Datsyuk shields the puck and avoids hits.