Speculation: NJD Offseason Part V

[Group Chat Legend*]

In the first deal, I'd only give Chicago a third at most. In the second deal, I wouldn't mind it but I like Severson.

Sign Okposo preferably yes. Maybe get Goligoski first and then we can attract better guys such as Okposo.

Chicago is moving TT to get some value, not to be ripped off. 2nd maybe is enough, might need a little something. TT will likely be better than whoever is at that 2nd pick.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

this doesn't feel like an unbiased post

clarkson is essentially a contract dump to move up for puljajarvi. I think you might be nuts to not want him to just sit on clarkson

Columbus could retain salary as well. I'd do that deal.

 

[Marshal Rochambeau]

Chicago is moving TT to get some value, not to be ripped off. 2nd maybe is enough, might need a little something. TT will likely be better than whoever is at that 2nd pick.

I'm not sure about that. I think they're moving TT to be able to move Bickel. I don't see why we should give them a 2nd so they can sign their players.

 

[Group Chat Legend*]

I'm not sure about that. I think they're moving TT to be able to move Bickel. I don't see why we should give them a 2nd so they can sign their players.

They can move Bickell without TT.

 

[Emperoreddy]

They can move Bickell without TT.

They have tried and haven't been able to. Custance laid this out. They couldn't move him without TT and they are getting desperate.

 

[Bleedred]

I remember when one or two people were questioning trading the 2nd for Palmieri last year instead of using that pick to draft Sprong. It was when Palmieri started out kind of slow in the first two weeks of the season.

Sprong and all 2 of his goals/total points in 18 games.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I remember when one or two people were questioning trading the 2nd for Palmieri last year instead of using that pick to draft Sprong. It was when Palmieri started out kind of slow in the first two weeks of the season.

Sprong and all 2 of his goals/total points in 18 games.

Did someone actually question the trade? God it felt like a no brainier then and now.

Blackwood got all the hate.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

They can move Bickell without TT.

They've tried. He's an unmoveable player, but they NEED him to be moved. When that happens, the trading team has no leverage, and when the trading team has no leverage, they can't expect value.

We'll obviously see what happens, but I think this is a pretty simple concept.

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

I remember when one or two people were questioning trading the 2nd for Palmieri last year instead of using that pick to draft Sprong. It was when Palmieri started out kind of slow in the first two weeks of the season.

Sprong and all 2 of his goals/total points in 18 games.

Yeah I don't recall anyone questioning that trade. It was the Blackwood selection.

Sprong looks like he has a good career in front of him. Probably would prefer him to Blackwood in our system, but it's not a huge deal.

 

[Feed Me A Stray Cat]

My ideal, but somewhat within the realm of possibility, offseason:

-Sign Backes to a 3yr/$21.0MM contract
-Sign Okposo to a 6yr/$39.0MM contract
-Sign Campbell to a 2yr/$12MM contract OR Sign Goligoski to a 4yr/$22.5MM contract

Cammalleri - Henrique - Okposo
Boucher - Backes - Palmieri
Zacha - Zajac - Pelly
Blandisi - Josefson - Lappin
Pietila, Kalinin

Campbell - Larsson
Greene - Severson
Moore - Schlemko
Helgeson

Schneider
Kiknaid/Wedgewood

That's a lot of dollars to spend in free agency. Backes probably doesn't deserve $7MM per year, but he probably needs that much to take a three year contract (wouldn't want him longer than that). New Jersey really needs a forward to drive possession and influence the pace of the game, and Backes is that guy. Okposo just makes too much sense, and is young enough that we don't need to worry about him falling off a cliff. We obviously need help on the left side of the defense, which Campbell or Goligoski would address.

In regards to Blandisi on the fourth line - I am a fan of having four lines that can all contribute offensively, so I don't have much of a problem with him being there. He could also end up in Albany to start the season.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

in before "but Backes and Campebell are older than 29!"


I wouldn't hate it all things considered though. that Backes deal is a good example of what I would like to do in free agency. Maybe pay more money AAV on a shorter term deal

 

[RSeen]

My ideal, but somewhat within the realm of possibility, offseason:

-Sign Backes to a 3yr/$21.0MM contract
-Sign Okposo to a 6yr/$39.0MM contract
-Sign Campbell to a 2yr/$12MM contract OR Sign Goligoski to a 4yr/$22.5MM contract

Cammalleri - Henrique - Okposo
Boucher - Backes - Palmieri
Zacha - Zajac - Pelly
Blandisi - Josefson - Lappin
Pietila, Kalinin

Campbell - Larsson
Greene - Severson
Moore - Schlemko
Helgeson

Schneider
Kiknaid/Wedgewood

That's a lot of dollars to spend in free agency. Backes probably doesn't deserve $7MM per year, but he probably needs that much to take a three year contract (wouldn't want him longer than that). New Jersey really needs a forward to drive possession and influence the pace of the game, and Backes is that guy. Okposo just makes too much sense, and is young enough that we don't need to worry about him falling off a cliff. We obviously need help on the left side of the defense, which Campbell or Goligoski would address.

In regards to Blandisi on the fourth line - I am a fan of having four lines that can all contribute offensively, so I don't have much of a problem with him being there. He could also end up in Albany to start the season.

This is how you hurt your team long-term by overpaying for free agents. No reason for adding a player like Backes at this point.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

This is how you hurt your team long-term by overpaying for free agents.

"overpaying" free agencts on short term deals will not hurt you long term. that is silly.

 

[Group Chat Legend*]

Backes and Goligoski are not going to sign for that term - if they did id gladly take them, but they wont. That leaves both players at about 35+, and they would likely get crap next. Thats avoided by going long term.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

There is no need for Backes, unless its a 1 year deal. the MOST id give him is 2 but that's pushing it.

 

[theoptimist]

NHL 16 GM Mode I see.

Backes for 3 years at 7 per, nah.

Let's do Backes for 2 years at 10 per.

**** it, Backes for 1 year at 15. Don't want anyone too old on this team! Not at all!

Smfh.

 

[theoptimist]

Backes and Goligoski are not going to sign for that term - if they did id gladly take them, but they wont. That leaves both players at about 35+, and they would likely get crap next. Thats avoided by going long term.

Thank you.

 

[Devil X]

I just really dont see Shero going nuts in UFA this season.

I know we all talk about signing people but for some reason i see Shero maybe chasing one of the better top line RW and making a Palmieri like trade and thats all.

Unless we move a dman in the trade i really dont see us signing any of these Dman. I believe Hynes/Shero are comfortable with Larrson Greene Severson Merrill Moore and Schlemko. Plus guys like Helg, Santini and Jacobs all battling for spots. He might take a flyer on a camp tryout with someone who has put up points in the past. Just dont see a Gogo or Yandle or Campbell or Demers coming here this year.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I just really dont see Shero going nuts in UFA this season.

I know we all talk about signing people but for some reason i see Shero maybe chasing one of the better top line RW and making a Palmieri like trade and thats all.

Unless we move a dman in the trade i really dont see us signing any of these Dman. I believe Hynes/Shero are comfortable with Larrson Greene Severson Merrill Moore and Schlemko. Plus guys like Helg, Santini and Jacobs all battling for spots. He might take a flyer on a camp tryout with someone who has put up points in the past. Just dont see a Gogo or Yandle or Campbell or Demers coming here this year.

if half of our D is made up of Moore, Merrill, and Schlemko, I will not be very happy.

Seth Helgeson is a borderline NHL player.

I believe Santini and Jacobs need at least a year in the AHL as well. no sense in rushing them.

 

[Devil X]

if half of our D is made up of Moore, Merrill, and Schlemko, I will not be very happy.

Seth Helgeson is a borderline NHL player.

I believe Santini and Jacobs need at least a year in the AHL as well. no sense in rushing them.

I agree there is no need to rush either guy.

Helgeson will be a fringe back and fourth Dman. I also think its a matter of time before we sign War to an extension so he will be around also.

Schlemko wasnt that bad last year. Moore and Merrill i get but i just dont see it. I dont see them spending big money on defense when the defense wasnt the biggest problem but more of a strength.

So i would be ready to not be happy.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I wouldn't call the defense a strength last year

they produced basically no offense. aside from Greene and Larsson's defensive prowess, it wasn't anything to write home about. You saw the weaknesses once Schneider got hurt.

 

[Devil X]

I agree it could have provided more offense. But i feel like with last years team a NORMAL bottom 6 would have been enough to get us into the playoffs and i believe thats what needs to be addressed more then anything.

I mean you never know i just dunno if defense is going to be a focus with all the Dman we already have here.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Our defense core needs some work. All it needs in my opinion is an Alex Goligoski type player signed to a 4-6 year deal. And by Alex Goligoski type player, I mean a 26-30 year old LHD who can put up some points and play solid defensively. Basically, this team needs a proven top 4 LHD that isn't too old but isn't too young.

If that were to happen, the D core for the next 3-4 years would look like this:

LHD:
Greene
(Goligoski)
Schlemko/Moore/Merrill/Helgeson/other

RHD:
Larsson
Severson
Santini/Jacobs/other

That looks damn good to me and allows the Devils to keep the same core together for many years.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I agree it could have provided more offense. But i feel like with last years team a NORMAL bottom 6 would have been enough to get us into the playoffs and i believe thats what needs to be addressed more then anything.

I mean you never know i just dunno if defense is going to be a focus with all the Dman we already have here.

I agree with that, but that doesn't mean our D couldn't use an upgrade. I am not saying that all we should do is sign a DMan, but I think it should be on the list.

with all the cap space we have and with a number of guys who could help us available, I would like to see someone brought in.

 

[Smitty426]

if half of our D is made up of Moore, Merrill, and Schlemko, I will not be very happy.

Seth Helgeson is a borderline NHL player.

I believe Santini and Jacobs need at least a year in the AHL as well. no sense in rushing them.

Agree with your statements here