NHLPA, Kyle Palmieri, and Scott Wilson sue the city of Pittsburgh

[Spring in Fialta]

Next time I go to Pittsburgh I’m gonna refuse to pay sales tax.

First thing that came to my mind. Let alone making an actual salary in the state.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Good luck little buddy.

 

[HugoLalumiere]

If not taxes, they'd just use that money for gambling, escorts and blow. And foolishly waste the rest.

Well, yours would be either sarcasm or downright idiotic generalization.

 

[HugoLalumiere]

Interesting, if it was a fee in order to play, the NHLPA could challenge that players don't have to pay the fee to play in games, and then the team would have to pay for it...

basically, it would become a bargaining issue.

And then the fans would end up paying that fee. Because if the team's gonna pay that fee, you can sure as hell bet that would be passed on to the fans. You pay so your team can play on the road. How quaint.

 

[Jumptheshark]

They're taxing athletes who aren't living in the city, I think.

about a dozen states do it to visiting players

 

[Tall Morty]

I quoted this at work today and no one knew what the hell I was talking about

 

[Ms Maggie]

It's taxation without representation, which is against the US Constitution. These people have no say in the cities Government therefore they have no obligation to be taxed by the City Government.

It's not in the Constitution. When you visit a state other than your own, do you pay sales tax? Highway tolls?

 

[Fantomas]

Pittsburgh shouldn't be taxing hockey players' jocks. That's ridiculous.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Scott Wilson is a sports star?

 

[bluesfan94]

Scott Wilson is a sports star?

compared to the dude that plays beer league, yes.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

compared to the dude that plays beer league, yes.

I suppose, I still think the term "star" is stretching it for Scott Wilson

 

[bluesfan94]

I suppose, I still think the term "star" is stretching it for Scott Wilson

Yeah, but in this context, the jock tax only applies to people getting paid to play, so that's why star was used. At least I hope

 

[thefutures]

I mean i don't pay for watching it so i guess can still complain ?

Watching equals ratings. Not sure where u think these salaries come from but its not from the gate.

 

[PensPlz]

Pittsburgh needs to pay for those bike lines some how.

 

[SoupNazi]

Pittsburgh needs to pay for those bike lines some how.

Don't knock bike lines. They're a great thing.

 

[PensPlz]

Don't knock bike lines. They're a great thing.

Not for a mountain locked, river locked, limited space hilly city where the weather is freezing and/or rainy 75% of the year.

No one uses them but they keep building them. Pandering at it's finest.

 

[Empoleon8771]

But you can buy a house in Pittsburgh for that same $12,000 . Yes I've been through those neighborhoods heading to a place from Diners Drive ins and Dives

If you can buy a house in Pittsburgh for $12k, I'd ****ing love to be pointed out to those houses.

Not for a mountain locked, river locked, limited space hilly city where the weather is freezing and/or rainy 75% of the year.

No one uses them but they keep building them. Pandering at it's finest.

Okay boomer.

 

[serp]

Watching equals ratings. Not sure where u think these salaries come from but its not from the gate.

I mean considering how i watch i doubt anyone from the NHL sees a dime from that . Not that this matters.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I'd love for you to point out the specific clause in the constitution this violates and/or any Supreme Court cases upholding that idea.

does a schoolhouse rocks spot count as a constitutional clause?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

By the same token, how would out of state fans feel if they walked up to the arena to buy a ticket to watch a game, and had to pay an extra tax that locals didn't pay? This after paying for a hotel room, spending money at local shops and taverns, and already putting money into the local economy?

It's easy to brush off jock tax because millionaires are the targets, but if government tried the same thing to Joe Fan, people would go nuts.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

By the same token, how would out of state fans feel if they walked up to the arena to buy a ticket to watch a game, and had to pay an extra tax that locals didn't pay? This after paying for a hotel room, spending money at local shops and taverns, and already putting money into the local economy?

It's easy to brush off jock tax because millionaires are the targets, but if government tried the same thing to Joe Fan, people would go nuts.

They already do. Pittsburg has guaranteed the sports teams loans get paid every year. I know 1 interest payment the city was on the hook for is in the upper 2mil range. All tax payer money.

also. Holy false equivalency Batman.

also, ever tried to buy an out of state fishing license?

 

[ItWasJustified]

Scott Wilson is a guy who's made close to league minimum his whole career, which is probably more than me and you but not a lot for the lifestyle he lives as a pro hockey player.

If he has lived above his means, that's his problem, not anybody else's.

 

[MoeManthaMustache]

It's a PA constitutional matter.

PA constitution says all taxes should be uniform.

Players contend the visitor tax and the home tax is not uniform.

There are lesser challenges made based on the US constitution as well.

It's all right there in the two page paper

 

[Jeti]

It's taxation without representation, which is against the US Constitution. These people have no say in the cities Government therefore they have no obligation to be taxed by the City Government.

What about sales tax if you're traveling to another state? I think "taxation without representation" was more about breaking from the British empire than it was about necessarily guaranteeing representation on EVERY tax paid.

Sounds like the issue isn't the tax per se, but the difference between being a resident "jock" (1%) and a visiting "jock" (3%), which makes it a little bit more nuanced than some of the previous posts might indicate.

100% this is the issue. The jock tax as a whole is not a problem.

 

[aemoreira1981]

Someone really needs to explain this im so lost

People who live and work in Pittsburgh are charged a 1 percent city income tax. Outsiders are charged 3 percent. The claim is that different tax rates violate the Pennsylvania Constitution since all tax rates are supposed to be uniform.