mr gib
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no-one in any media has menitoned how the nfl gets around their - cap -
the deferred signing bonus - thats the way around the cap in the nhl
the deferred signing bonus - thats the way around the cap in the nhl
mr gib said:no-one in any media has menitoned how the nfl gets around their - cap -
the deferred signing bonus - thats the way around the cap in the nhl
MooseHunter said:they also get 65% of the NFL's profits.
jwr38 said:I agree you should be able to be cut or fired. I hate how in the NHL you can´t fire players if they don´t preform.
Personaly players should be able to be fired. First they must be given a warning (made public) then if they don´t meet the standard (which should be set in the contract) they can be fired. These standards must be fixed and be able to be recorded. (no, you must play well)
e.g. player a has a:
2 million contract for 2 years.
must score 0.63 points per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.15 goals per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.40 assists per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must play 0.80 of all games (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must have a + or - of +1 (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
Now if player a does not achieve one of these by the 20th game he is given a warning. By the 40th game he still does not he can be fired. If by the 40th game he achieves these goals he needs to be warned again. Now this means players need to achieve the money they asked for. You don´t have to fire a player but you can if you want. If you are fired you be come an UFA.
Simple. Free market you want you can have. But if the NHLPA want a free market then they will have to set themselves up to a free market.
In my job they only have to give me a 2 week warning!! The players have it too good right now.
One poster here was saying that every cent - including signing bonuses - is including under the NFL cap. Does anyone know for sure?mr gib said:no-one in any media has menitoned how the nfl gets around their - cap -
the deferred signing bonus - thats the way around the cap in the nhl
jwr38 said:I agree you should be able to be cut or fired. I hate how in the NHL you can´t fire players if they don´t preform.
Personaly players should be able to be fired. First they must be given a warning (made public) then if they don´t meet the standard (which should be set in the contract) they can be fired. These standards must be fixed and be able to be recorded. (no, you must play well)
e.g. player a has a:
2 million contract for 2 years.
must score 0.63 points per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.15 goals per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.40 assists per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must play 0.80 of all games (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must have a + or - of +1 (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
Now if player a does not achieve one of these by the 20th game he is given a warning. By the 40th game he still does not he can be fired. If by the 40th game he achieves these goals he needs to be warned again. Now this means players need to achieve the money they asked for. You don´t have to fire a player but you can if you want. If you are fired you be come an UFA.
Simple. Free market you want you can have. But if the NHLPA want a free market then they will have to set themselves up to a free market.
In my job they only have to give me a 2 week warning!! The players have it too good right now.
jwr38 said:I agree you should be able to be cut or fired. I hate how in the NHL you can´t fire players if they don´t preform.
Personaly players should be able to be fired. First they must be given a warning (made public) then if they don´t meet the standard (which should be set in the contract) they can be fired. These standards must be fixed and be able to be recorded. (no, you must play well)
e.g. player a has a:
2 million contract for 2 years.
must score 0.63 points per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.15 goals per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must score 0.40 assists per game (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must play 0.80 of all games (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
must have a + or - of +1 (counted on the 20th, 40th 60th and 82nd game)
Now if player a does not achieve one of these by the 20th game he is given a warning. By the 40th game he still does not he can be fired. If by the 40th game he achieves these goals he needs to be warned again. Now this means players need to achieve the money they asked for. You don´t have to fire a player but you can if you want. If you are fired you be come an UFA.
Simple. Free market you want you can have. But if the NHLPA want a free market then they will have to set themselves up to a free market.
In my job they only have to give me a 2 week warning!! The players have it too good right now.
Seachd said:One poster here was saying that every cent - including signingbonuses - is including under the NFL cap. Does anyone know for sure?
Seachd said:One poster here was saying that every cent - including signing bonuses - is including under the NFL cap. Does anyone know for sure?
hockeytown9321 said:what happnes is that the bonus is paid upfront, in full at the time of signing. If I sign you to a 4 year deal with an $8 million bonus, I give you a check for $8 million the day you sign. The bonus then gets prorated over the lenght of the contract, so only $2 million in cap space is taken up per year.
I think the problem in signing bonuses with regard to a NHL cap wouldn't be cap space, but that there are still going to be teams able to offer huge bonuses that small market teams can't. If Pittsburgh can't pay someone $5 million over a season, how can they pay it upfront?
Go Flames Go said:Revenue Sharing will make it even so all teams can compete.
JWI19 said:But the owners aren't talking about revenue sharing. As a matter of fact the players are the one who put a revenue sharing plan in thier proposal. Large market owners do not want to share their revenue with the small markets. Thats why they want such a low cap numbers. It helps the small markets compete, and lets the large market owners rake in the dough.
Go Flames Go said:Gary Bettman said many times that revenue sharing, and even Bill Daly that revenue sharing will be apart of this CBA it will be a major point in it.