Next years potential line-up

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  1. Fogelhund

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    Please list all UFA C's who fit this requirement. Thanks.
     
  2. LeafFever

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    I don't believe for a second they will trade Nylander for a D. Everyone says this, but you've gotta keep the big 3.
    Gardiner, yeah given his contract situation he may need to go.
     
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    There’ll be lots of discussion after the Leafs season, but does Gardiner have just 1 year left? I don’t see him as a core guy, especially if they could land a guy like Carlson from the Caps.

    I’m thinking he’d be potential trade candidate.
     
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    Johnsson Tavares Marner
    Kapanen Matthews Nylander
    Marleau Kadri Brown
    Leivo Aaltonen Hyman
    Martin

    Rielly Hainsey
    Gardiner Rosen
    Dermott Zaitzev

    Andersen
    McElhinney
     
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    We're not the Oilers. Not gonna trade one of our stars for a defenseman. Nylander has a lot of work to do mainly in his competitiveness. That will come with time. You don't trade him just because he looks soft right now and we need help on D. Keep developing and drafting right, when the opportunity comes put forth a nice package (picks, prospects, etc) and pull the trigger. Any package though, won't include Nylander. He isn't going anywhere.
     
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    Yup. That's an Oilers move and it backfired horribly.
    Look at the prices to acquire some pretty ordinary Dmen right now. The Leafs brought up Dermott and he was better than anyone.
    We can trade 1st rounders and prospects for D help. It doesn't have to be a Nylander or Marner which people are obsessed with trading.
     
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    So, the same defense the clearly isn't good enough to compete for the Cup?

    People's fascination with Tavares is numbing, particularly when we have such glaring weaknesses on D.

    I'm not sure on your Cap either. We are at $49.77

    Add in Tavares $12 million
    Nylander $6 million
    Johnsson $1 million
    Gauthier $ 1 million
    Borgman/Rosen - $925,000

    So, you are out by about $4 million...
     
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    Keefe calls Rosen his most reliable defenseman (after Marincin) and Babcock always has good things to say. I could see him taking the open spot(s) on D.
     
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    Every Marlies game I seen Rosen was the best player on the ice, really like his game.
     
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    The last thing the team needs is a UFA winger, they have too many guys as is.

    A reliable 4C is a key priority.

    As for bigger UFA names I think they’ll have a much better chance at landing Carlson than anyone else
     
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    Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
    Marleau-Kadri-Marner
    Johnsson-Thornton-Kapanen
    Grundstrom-Bozak-Brown

    Bozak back for a 3yr × 3 Mil
    Thornton signs a big 1 year (before Matthews/Marner contracts kick in)

    Rielly-Dermott
    Gardiner-Zaitsev
    Hainsey-Liljergen

    Andersen
    McElhinney
     
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    Johnsson - Matthews - Marner
    Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
    Grundstrom - Nylander - Hyman
    Engvall - Aaltonen - Brown

    Rielly - Dermott
    Gardiner - Carrick
    Borgman - Zaitsev

    Andersen
    Sparks
    with like a 52-30 split or something. Andy gets way too many games

    PP1: Johnsson- Matthews - Nylander - Marner - Rielly
    PP2: Kadri - Grundstrom - Kapanen - Marleau - Gardiner

    PK forwards: Aaltonen, Kadri, Brown, Hyman, Grundstrom, Engvall, Kapanen, Johnsson
    Pk defensemen: Dermott, Borgman, Zaitsev, Rielly
     
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    I’m not trading that asset for an average D. It’d be for a proven stud.
    Really the question is- how far away from competing are they- 1 year or closer to 3? I don’t know but I’d guess it’s closer to 3
     
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    Grundstrom-Matthews (C)-Kapanen
    Marleau (A)-Kadri-Marner
    Johnsson-Nylander-Hyman
    Grabner-Derek Ryan-Brown
    *Martin, Aaltonen*

    Gardiner-John Carlson
    Rielly (A)-Dermott
    Hainsey-Zaitsev
    *Holl*

    Andersen
    McElhinney
     
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    I like this lineup. A LOT.

    Something I can see Keefe running if he was head coach. With Babs at the helm, I don't know anymore. He might bribe Lou to forcefully sign Leo and Polak because they're men.
     
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    Kovalchuk Matthews Hyman
    Marleau Kadri Marner
    Johnsson Nylander Kapanen
    Grundstrom Aaltonen Martin/Engevell/Korshkov

    Dermott Carlson
    Reilly Tanev
    Rosen/Borgman Zaitsev
    Carrick/Liljegren as potential RHD when Tanev gets injured.

    Gardiner went to Edmonton for their 2018 1st, we selected Noah Dobson RHD.
    Brown, our 2018 1st, 2019 2nd for Tanev.
    Hyman has played all three Forward positions before... move him to RW
    Kovalchuk for $6-7 million two years.
    Carlson for $8 million for 6 years.

    I toyed with the idea of adding Zaitsev into the Vancouver deal, and getting back Gudbranson... even if we'd have to add something... That $4 mil cap hit on Gudbranson is kind of ugly though... but, he'd give us some size and snarl on the back end. It would be a cap neutral trade though, with Zaitsev headed out of town.
     
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    I think that Rosen has had a strong second half with the Marlies. The games I saw him play in the first half with Marlies....he was bad. Really bad. It is good to see the improvement.
     
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    I went nostalgic with Tavaras - put him in at 9.1 million haha. Borgman/Rosen are not counted as they are press/box call-ups. Johnsson and Gauthier are under a million each - around the 800-850K range... as for Nylander, he hasn't proven to be worth 6 million yet. He got 5.5 I believe. I am also working with an 80 million cap, not 75.
     
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    Not a single C on that team PKs... that could be a problem, no? Also doubt Grundy is ready for the big squad, but stranger things have happened.
     
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    I'd love to see Keefe behind our NHL bench next year. Not necessarily as head coach, but I think he'd be better at assembling a proper lineup for today's league
     
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    like any european coming over here it takes awhile to get used to the smaller ice.
     
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    For sure. Would be a great move and Babcock will learn a lot from him, only downside I see is if he leaves the Marlies to come up here someone else will run the Marlies and the players could end up regressing in development (probably not but unwilling to take that risk). The past few years Keefe has been with the Marlies he is just developing our Marlies magically.
     
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    Fuuuuuuu that offence would be lethal. If only.
     
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    yeah Keefe is fantastic. I really hope we can keep him in our organization, and we might need to promote him for that
     
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    Only if nylander can accept a bridge deal .hes more kadri than all star IMO
     

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