Next Seasons Calder Race

[Takeo]

Vanek

 

[Crusher20]

Perezhogin could be close in terms of points, i think he will adjust incredibly fast to the NHL.

 

[wilka91*]

How can "Crosbyfan" be realistic when it comes to Crosby???

Serisouly :

Crosby will struggle big time for his lack of experience at senior level and his small size. The so called "new" NHL won't be any different from the old one ON the ice, and Crosby will have a hard time adapting.

Ovechkin will also struggle. He's not used to the NA style of play, and he won't have any good teammates to help him up front. But he's got a huge advantage over Crosby for he has played with seniors for the past couple of years, including the World Cup and the Senior World Championships, where he led Team Russia in scoring (you remember that this team included Datsyuk, Kovalchuk and Kovalev, right???).

Anyway, IMO Crosby will get something around 40-50 points, and Ovechkin should have the same rookie year as Kovalchuk 3 years ago.

 

[JayRice66]

I don't think anyone can say one way or the other who will win. Look at the list of rookies that will be playing this year. The list is amazing. This year is going to be fun to watch all the future starts shine.

 

[wilka91*]

Perezhogin could be close in terms of points, i think he will adjust incredibly fast to the NHL.

Would you still say that if Perezhogin wasn't a Habs prospect?

 

[gars59]

crosby
oveckin
lethonen
phaneuf
vanek
carter
perezhogin


oh my god look the list, it' too sad which it does not have all star game

 

[EroCaps]

How can "Crosbyfan" be realistic when it comes to Crosby???

Serisouly :

Crosby will struggle big time for his lack of experience at senior level and his small size. The so called "new" NHL won't be any different from the old one ON the ice, and Crosby will have a hard time adapting.

Ovechkin will also struggle. He's not used to the NA style of play, and he won't have any good teammates to help him up front. But he's got a huge advantage over Crosby for he has played with seniors for the past couple of years, including the World Cup and the Senior World Championships, where he led Team Russia in scoring (you remember that this team included Datsyuk, Kovalchuk and Kovalev, right???).

Anyway, IMO Crosby will get something around 40-50 points, and Ovechkin should have the same rookie year as Kovalchuk 3 years ago.

I like your analysis but where I would differ is that Ovechkin is not used to the NA style of play. That's a big reach, IMO. His game translates very well.

I also want to point out that another player who played for the Russian Senior Team was Malkin, who didn't score a goal and finished 0g-4a to AO's 5g-3a. I mention this because I really like Malkin and see him as a comparible talent to Crosby.

If Malkin, who by many accounts is as or more NHL ready than SC fared as such it could be a decent litmus of things to come for young, uber-talented center prospects adjusting to the pro game.

 

[bigjags*]

I'm not going to debate on this issue with you especially when I seen Crosby play plenty more times then you have. Crosby is the strongest forward leg wise to come from the Q in long long time. Bergeron wasn't pushed around in his rookie year and Crosby is much stronger then him.

Crosby will be awesome one day. But if you don't think a 17 year old kid will be pushed around by men then you've never played hockey in your life. Guys like Chara, Pronger, Stevens will flatten him.

 

[TVanek26*]

Vanek will score atleast 25+,bank on it.

 

[Crosbyfan]

Crosby will be awesome one day. But if you don't think a 17 year old kid will be pushed around by men then you've never played hockey in your life. Guys like Chara, Pronger, Stevens will flatten him.

Of course they will. Hopefully he won't be seriously injured but half the HHOF is players who have had season ending or season ruining injuries. No one is immune to it.

Sid has played all his life against the best players on the planet 2 to 4 yearts older than he is/was. He has usually been targeted as the best player on the ice. He still managed to produce.

The more he scores the more he will be targeted. So guys like Chara, Pronger and Stevens will flatten him. He may miss a game or two even after an honest check. He may also just get up unhurt and take Chara, Pronger or Stevens to school on the next play. He could also get seriously hurt.

The risks are always there. Throw in cheapshots from guys like Hatcher and the fact that the NHL will only reluctantly discipline players even for open unguarded blows to the head.

Sid will be at risk.

So will every other talented rookie in next season's Calder race...and every other veteran.

 

[Crusher20]

Would you still say that if Perezhogin wasn't a Habs prospect?

probably not because i wouldnt have followed his progression as close as i did.. but go check up the way he adjust at each level, go see his skills.. but mostly his hockey sense... i can tell you now, i am convinced 1. he will make the team, as a minimum 3th liner.. possibly could move to the second line, and who knows.. maybe first if Julien wants to put more stability in his lines.. moving Zednik with Ribeiro and Ryder.. anyway, its just my opinion, i didnt say he would win, but im more confident than i was with Ryder last year, and i was one of the few who had hopes with him.. anyway.. maybe you can check up with people who followed RSL... go ahead compare, i even put Ovechkin for you so you can compare with a super talent.. Perezhogin is effective and got the instincts but isnt has... FLASHY or POWERFUL as other prospects.. or didnt go 1st, 2nd, or 5th overall in the draft.. again i didnt say he would win the ROY but that he would produce and surprise, i am no fool, talents are just insane but dont underate the kid or dont think i say that only because he is from montreal, i could have said... KOstitsyn.. NO, i could have said.. Plekanec, NO, i could have said.. Higgins, NO... just Perezhogin could do this.. thats my opinion thats all, take it for whats its worth.. not much but hey...

Alexander Perezhogin Right Wing
Born Aug 10 1983 -- Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazachstan
Height 5.09 -- Weight 168
Selected by Montreal Canadiens round 1 #25 overall 2001 NHL Entry Draft



Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
2001-02 Omsk Avangard Russia 3 1 0 1 4
2002-03 Omsk Avangard Russia 48 15 6 21 28 8 0 2 2 4
2003-04 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 77 23 27 50 52 5 3 3 6 16
2004-05 Omsk Avangard Russia 43 15 18 33 18


Alexei Kovalev Right Wing
Born Feb 24 1973 -- Togliatti, Russia
Height 6.02 -- Weight 210
Selected by New-York Rangers round 1 #15 overall 1991 NHL Entry Draft



Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
2002-03 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 54 27 37 64 50 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 New-York Rangers NHL 24 10 3 13 20 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 New-York Rangers NHL 66 13 29 42 54 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 Montreal Canadiens NHL 12 1 2 3 12 11 6 4 10 8
2004-05 Kazan Ak-Bars Russia 35 10 13 23 80
NHL Totals 849 292 388 680 902 94 33 44 77 90


Vincent Lecavalier Center
Born Apr 21 1980 -- Ile Bizard, PQ
Height 6.04 -- Weight 190 -- Shoots L
Selected by Tampa-Bay Lightning round 1 #1 overall 1998 NHL Entry Draft



Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
1996-97 Rimouski Oceanic QMJHL 64 42 60 102 36
1997-98 Rimouski Oceanic QMJHL 58 44 71 115 117 18 15 26 41 46
1998-99 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 82 13 15 28 23 -- -- -- -- --
1999-00 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 80 25 42 67 43 -- -- -- -- --
2000-01 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 68 23 28 51 66 -- -- -- -- --
2001-02 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 76 20 17 37 61 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 80 33 45 78 39 11 3 3 6 22
2003-04 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 81 32 34 66 52 23 9 7 16 25
2004-05 Kazan Ak-Bars Russia 30 7 8 15 78
NHL Totals 467 146 181 327 284 34 12 10 22 47



Alexander Ovechkin Left Wing
Born Sep 17 1985 -- Moscow, Russia
Height 6.01 -- Weight 212 -- Shoots R
Selected by Washington Capitals round 1 #1 overall 2004 NHL Entry Draft



Regular Season Playoffs
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
2001-02 Moscow Dynamo Russia 21 2 2 4 4
2002-03 Moscow Dynamo Russia 40 8 7 15 28 5 0 0 0 2
2003-04 Moscow Dynamo Russia 53 13 10 23 42 3 0 0 0 2
2004-05 Moscow Dynamo Russia 37 13 14 27 32

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[wilka91*]

Hey I know all those stats and I know who Perezhogin is as I have watched the Russian Superleague all season long. Perezhogin is one of my favorite players already. But you should not forget that Perezhogin scored most of his points when he was moved onto Jagr's line.

 

[Crusher20]

Hey I know all those stats and I know who Perezhogin is as I have watched the Russian Superleague all season long. Perezhogin is one of my favorite players already. But you should not forget that Perezhogin scored most of his points when he was moved onto Jagr's line.

and why is he one of your favorite players.. imagine now if he would be player owned by your team.. yeah Perezhogin rules...

I just think he will do pretty well with the habs, pretty much a lock on the team.... i would be shock if he doesnt make it, imo is already better than Sundstrom? dont you agree?

 

[Crusher20]

I think Crosby will win it if he plays with Lemieux and Palffy.. damn... i predict a 80+ pts season... If he plays on the top line.

Crosby 80 - 23 goals 61 assists.. - 84 pts
Palffy 68-39-45-84
Lemieux 61-21-45-66

 

[i am dave]

I bet someone no one ever heard of wins it.

 

[CH Wizard]

One of Crosby, Ovechkin, Vanek, Malkin (assuming he signs).

 

[wilka91*]

lecavalier averaged 2 ppg in his last year in the Q, and totaled 28 pts in his 1st NHL season as an 18 year-old

crosby averaged 2.7 ppg in the Q, and IMO he'll score 30-50 pts in his 1st season

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

lecavalier averaged 2 ppg in his last year in the Q, and totaled 28 pts in his 1st NHL season as an 18 year-old

crosby averaged 2.7 ppg in the Q, and IMO he'll score 30-50 pts in his 1st season

crosby has a much better supporting cast than vinny did however.

 

[Shoalzie]

Crosby will put up 50-60 points this year...

 

[wilka91*]

Crosby will put up 50-60 points this year...

now way

he's too weak

 

[Crusher20]

crosby has a much better supporting cast than vinny did however.

Lecavalier was playing with Richards too.. in the LHJMQ.. Crosby dunno he made the players around him better.

 

[burgundynblue]

now way

he's too weak

He will just give the puck to Lemieux and Recchi and earn points for passes...

 

[TheBigBadB]

A out of in left field dark horse pick...You can't argue with the numbers...IF he can translate these stats in the NHL..He might be in the running...Who is it??

Sergei Zinovjev!!! He's sitting in some pretty good company last year.

Ilya Kovalchuk Kazak Bears 53 19 22 41 70
Sergei Zinovjev Kazak Bears 53 17 20 37 82
Pavel Datsyuk Moscow Dynamo 47 15 20 35 16

 

[crosby_87]

Zach Parise

 

[Flyersguru]

Jeff Carter will if he's playing on the same line with Forsberg...