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I would have taken Noel, but hey, Ernie "I've drafted one All-Star in 20 years" Grunfeld wanted Porter. So Porter it is.
 
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NobodyBeatsTheWiz said:
I really don't know where you're coming up with this stuff about Noel being more advanced offensively than anyone. His offensive games consisted of basically putbacks, dunks, and alley-oops. He was bad in the post, bad at the free throw line, and can't shoot

As far as the comparative rebounding abilities, Noel's RB/40 this season at Kentucky was 11.91. McGee's RB/40 his sophomore year at Nevada (he barely played his freshman year) was 10.7. Not a huge difference. What players would McGee have benefited from at Nevada?

In addition to the ACL tear, he broke the growth plate in his left knee his junior year of high school, which could have contributed to the ACL tear. Apparently doctors wanted him to sit out through the summer to let it heal, but his 'advisers' wanted him to play, so he started playing with his travel team in the spring. So in addition to his ACL tear, he's got an improperly healed growth plate fracture in his knee. I'd link the article, but it's archived behind a pay wall.

Noel measured in at 6'10", 206 at the combine, so wherever you're getting that 228 number from is wrong.
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He was definitely more advanced offensively than McGee as a freshmen who you compared him to, not saying he's more advanced than anyone else. Much better in transition and had more offense to show.

What good does comparing McGee's sophomore year to Noel's freshmen year do? It's as if you think Noel would not have progressed his game, either way he was still better as a freshmen than McGee as a sophomore. Noel averaged almost two more blocks and over two more rebounds a game as a freshmen than McGee as a sophomore.

All I've heard about his injury was the ACL, I can't comment on his growth plate. If it's just his ACL it's not something that people should be overly concerned with.

Even Kentucky's site had him at 6-10 228lbs for the year so he clearly can play at that weight and post injury he may have lost some, it's not like he can't gain it back.
 
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Capitlols said:
He was definitely more advanced offensively than McGee as a freshmen who you compared him to, not saying he's more advanced than anyone else. Much better in transition and had more offense to show.

What good does comparing McGee's sophomore year to Noel's freshmen year do? It's as if you think Noel would not have progressed his game, either way he was still better as a freshmen than McGee as a sophomore. Noel averaged almost two more blocks and over two more rebounds a game as a freshmen than McGee as a sophomore.

All I've heard about his injury was the ACL, I can't comment on his growth plate. If it's just his ACL it's not something that people should be overly concerned with.

Even Kentucky's site had him at 6-10 228lbs for the year so he clearly can play at that weight and post injury he may have lost some, it's not like he can't gain it back.
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I used McGee's sophomore year because it was his draft year and because he didn't play enough his freshman year for the statistics to fall within a meaningful sample.

And no, Noel's offensive game was not more advanced than McGee. He had no offensive moves to speak of. They were both as raw as can be.

College websites are notorious for exaggerating players' measurements. We have a measurement conducted by the NBA within the last month and a half. I have no idea why you want to ignore that.
 
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Some draft analysis from ESPN:

4. Which pick and team was the best match?
Goodman: Trey Burke and Utah. The Jazz desperately need a point guard, and the former Michigan star is the ideal fit in Salt Lake City. He's a born leader, can run the pick-and-roll and is also able to make shots from deep.

Pelton: Otto Porter, Washington Wizards. The one pick we've had a good feel for since the night of the lottery. Porter has a chance to start next season and help the Wizards get back to the playoffs.

Telep: The Wizards were taking Porter at No. 3 because he was the best fit for their team. John Wall and Bradley Beal are the future of this franchise, and surrounding them with another young, low-maintenance player was important for the long-term construction of this squad. It's a bonus that Porter has a local connection (Georgetown).

Elhassan: Agree it's Porter to Washington. Porter was just what the doctor ordered: A versatile wing defender with a nose for the ball, a desire to do the little things, and a developing offensive game. Alongside Wall and Beal, Porter fits in seamlessly as the perfect complement.

Doolittle: Tie: Love Porter for the Wizards, and C.J. McCollum with the Blazers.
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Hey at least you guys didn't trade your 23 year old all star point guard for that bum knee. The Sixers might take over Charlotte for the laughing stock of the league real soon. New GM is literally looking at unloading ever single player on the team and building from the ground up. Tanking for Wiggins before the season starts.
 
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The power's legit. He's just a much better hitter this season than in the past.

Olney had a decent article on him the other day. An excerpt:

From ESPN Stats and Information: How has Davis developed into one of the elite hitters in baseball this season? Improvement in three key areas:

More contact: During his first two seasons in the majors, Davis struck out 32.3 percent of the time he came to bat. No player, age 23 or younger, in MLB history struck out more often over the course of his first two seasons. This season: 26.3 percent, an enormous improvement.

More fly balls: Last season, Davis hit 33 home runs while hitting fly balls only 39 percent of the time, just slightly above the league average of 36 percent. This season? He's hitting fly balls 48 percent of the time (sixth in MLB).

Better plate discipline: Over the previous four seasons, Davis swung at 36 percent of pitches out of the zone. This season: 29 percent. This has allowed him to get into better counts -- counts he can do damage in. From 2009 to '12, Davis saw a 2-0 or 3-1 count in 14 percent of his plate appearances. This season, he's seeing those counts in 23 percent of his plate appearances and hitting .490/.679/1.163 with a MLB-leading 10 homers in those situations.

Both of Davis' home runs Saturday came against curveballs. He leads the majors with 10 homers versus breaking balls this season.
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It should also be noted the Keith Law is a believer that Davis has turned into an elite hitter, and he's one that usually tries to find some way to bash the O's.
 

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I sure dont miss Terry Crowley.
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Terry Crowley's lucky he's in f'in baseball. He was released by the Cincinnati Reds, he was released by the f'in god dammed Atlanta Braves. We saw that Terry Crowley could sit on his f'in ass for eight innings and enjoy watching the baseball game just like any other fan, and has the ability to get up there and break one open in the f'in ninth...
 
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@keithlaw: Orioles acquire Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger from the Cubs for Jake Arrietta, Pedro Strop, and int'l bonus slots.

Seems like good value. Feldman another former Ranger.
 
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@keithlaw: Orioles acquire Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger from the Cubs for Jake Arrietta, Pedro Strop, and int'l bonus slots.

Seems like good value. Feldman another former Ranger.
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What's the skinny on Feldman and Clevenger?
 
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Feldman's a tall RH starter. More of a #4/5 but he won 17 games a few years back and has pitched well this year (albeit in the NL). Buck has always liked him. Chen-Tillman-Gonzalez-Hammel-Feldman...not bad. Clevenger is catching depth.

Arrieta & Strop were head cases so no biggie. Better them than Britton or their one of their better B prospects.
 
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Langway said:
Feldman's a tall RH starter. More of a #4/5 but he won 17 games a few years back and has pitched well this year. Buck has always liked him. Chen-Tillman-Gonzalez-Hammel-Feldman...not bad. Clevenger is catching depth.

Arrieta & Strop were head cases so no biggie. Better them than Britton or their one of their better B prospects.
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They still lack that true number one guy, but this helps the playoff push.
 
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