Proposal: Multiple Oiler Trades for the playoffs

[GOilers88]

Any interest in Meier?

I like Meier too, just not his qualifying offer. Is he a finisher? I feel like that's what McDavid needs more than anything.

 

[Groo]

I like Meier too, just not his qualifying offer. Is he a finisher? I feel like that's what McDavid needs more than anything.

I would say generally he is but he's not found the scoring touch this season as much as hoped

 

[ElPrimeTime]

That deal does work in terms of cap. But do you see any incentive there for Buffalo to do this? Jones is a 7th defenseman, then you are sending two bad contracts for nothing of value. There's no prospect or pick in there that get's Buffalo excited. They are asking for a 1st for Hall alone. Now you're adding their young starter and dumping bad cap on them and sending them a lesser return. They are better off letting Hall walk for nothing than accepting that package.

I think Hutton would/should be the target. Sabres could role with Ullmark and Koskinen next year as their 1-2. Jones has shown signs of being a 4-6 d-man who is signed to a reasonable contract. As for picks/prospects, I mentioned some combination. Outside of the Oilers A prospects (Broberg, Holloway, Bouchard), there are some intriguing players in that B prospect range.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Wow what happened to Ethan bear

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

If Getzlaf is up for trade I'm sure there will be a team stepping up with more to offer than a 2nd round pick two years from now

 

[McSuper]

no thanks, ADA is not a cap dump.

Yes he is . Been offer for free and went unclaimed. GM won’t play him . Koskinen is at very least a good back up and a better team mate . Offer withdraw don’t need the POS on the Oilers . Took 2 of my morphine for pain so wasn’t thinking clearly . Nurse , Bear , Khaira and Jones would kill him .

 

[Larry44]

The Bear deal sucks

You can have Erik Gustafsson, fresh from weeks in our press box, for a bag of used pucks and some pylons for skating drills.

But if you want to give us Ethan Bear, we'll take him! LOL!

 

[redgrant]

Yeah you're probably right. It's why the Rangers refuse to play him, won't send him to the AHL, and no teams are lining up for the opportunity to trade for him.

No, no I'm pretty sure the poster on hf boards knows more about the real story than the team that won't even assign him to the AHL.

This team doesn't need a cancer telling Ethan bear, jujhar khaira, Darnell nurse and Kailer Yamamoto how awesome Donald trump is and how Joe Biden stole the election.

 

[780il]

- I’d do the first one
- Getz isn’t leaving Cali
- the Bear trade sucks balls
- I’d also do this one, Drai and Gaudreau would be insane together

 

[GOilers88]

Wow what happened to Ethan bear

Sophomore slump from the looks of it.

 

[VainGretzky]

We are not trading Gaudreau to the Oilers. Get real.

If we did it would severely hurt your team, like Holloway and Broberg.

Personally I still think Gaudreau signs a long term deal in Calgary

Yea the chances of that is about the same as Tavares was going to re-sign with the Isle .

Could you imagine Gaudreau feeding the puck to McDavid? It would be pretty special. That being said we would want an A prospect in the deal for sure.

Would be the other way around as Gaudreau is constantly cherry picking

 

[Sparky93]

I think most Oiler fans recognize they need a top six LW, a 3C and an upgrade in goal (Koskinen). A 3-4 LHD would also be a great addition but are proving hard to get.



Linus Ullmark (G) pending UFA



Mikko Koskinen (G)
2022 2nd round pick

As unbelievable as it may sound Koskinen would get to submit a 15 team no trade list and Buffalo would have to not be on it. Top dollars, term and a M-NTC. Just chew on that for a minute.



Ryan Getzlaf pending UFA



2023 2nd round pick
Alex Chiasson

Purely a rental for the playoffs Getzlaf would be an ideal addition as a 3C in Edmonton. Getzlaf would have to waive. Chiasson is included for cap purposes to balance things out just until the end of the season. He is then a UFA. Getzlaf then returns to Anaheim for one more year and retires a Duck.



Erik Gustafsson (LHD) (50% retained) pending UFA



Ethan Bear (RHD)

Nice addition to the 2nd pairing for the Oilers, Gustafsson can also play the right side depending on the situation.

This next one is the hardest.



Johnny Gaudreau (LW, one more year left at $6.75 Million)



Kyle Turris (cap dump)
Kris Russell (cap purposes)
2021 1st
2022 1st
Tyler Benson (B Prospect, tearing it up in the minors)

Add in Savoie and I think the Flames consider it.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Most of these are bad but Gustavsson for Bear is a deal that even Peter Chiarelli reacts to with a lol. Just awful.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

We are not trading Gaudreau to the Oilers. Get real.

If we did it would severely hurt your team, like Holloway and Broberg.

Personally I still think Gaudreau signs a long term deal in Calgary

Ironic.

 

[CupofOil]

The Bear deal is awful for the Oilers. I don't see the point of that deal, at all.
The Gaudreau deal is pretty shit for Calgary considering division rival tax and all that (they'd probably ask for Holloway+ which I'd have zero interest in) and I hate the fit of Gaudreau in Edmonton, don't need another soft playmaker. Koskinen isn't waiving for Buffalo.

I'd be interested in Derek Ryan. What do Flames fans want in return for him? 4th+?

 

[PuckG]

This is not the year to go for it

I get where you're coming from with the way cap clears up moving forward, but when we have Drai and McDavid in their mid-twenties, I think we should go for it every year. Tired of waiting to be honest.

 

[McFlash97]

Hall fits with Drai. They've played together and had great chemistry. Run a top 6 of:

Nuge-McD-JP
Hall-Drai-Yamo

But I agree, Schwartz would be a great fit. He would also cost significantly more than Hall.

Nuge doesn't fit with Connor. He is soft, can't accelerate anymore, and is way to perimeter.

 

[thadd]

None of these deals make any sense.
Buffalo has enough bad contracts. They're going to take a 2nd to give us a solid back-up and eat 5M cap space for 2 more seasons for us? Get real.
Getslaf may not be scoring as much as he used to, but he's sure as hell worth more than a second rounder plus a 4th line winger who can play on the PP.
2 firsts (assume they'd be late ones), a prospect whose offense likely won't convert in the NHL and 2 cap dumps for a first line winger?
What on earth...

 

[thadd]

I get where you're coming from with the way cap clears up moving forward, but when we have Drai and McDavid in their mid-twenties, I think we should go for it every year. Tired of waiting to be honest.

Well things won't get any better for you.
With Klefbom healthy we've more or less got a blueline, but we still need to address goaltending and forwards. Lots of moves to be made till we're going to be taken as a serious contender.

 

[WidgitRibbit]

If Getzlaf is up for trade I'm sure there will be a team stepping up with more to offer than a 2nd round pick two years from now

That’s what I’m thinking. That offer is atrocious for someone’s team captain. One that is a seasoned playoff veteran and a Stanley cup champion. It’s almost insulting for our GM to bring up the trade discussion with Getzlaf and what is coming back.

“Hey Getzlaf!!! We traded you for a second round pick” enjoy your stay with Edmonton! Nope it shouldn’t work like that

 

[TOGuy14]

I think a 2nd is enough value. Koskinen isn't a terrible goalie if you play him 30ish games a year. The problem is he makes too much money to play 30 games a year.

This is a lot of words to say that he is a 4.5M backup.

Edmonton would have to retain some money to move Koskinen unless some team got really desperate

 

[DingDongCharlie]

if he was a cancer and so bad, why did Rangers sign him to 4.8 mil last fall? Makes no sense, does it? Maybe there is a flaw in your theory?

And since then they
1) offered him league wide for free via waivers with no takers
2) told him he’s done with the organization (played his last game)
3) refused to assign him to the AHL squad (despite his request) also didn’t loan him to another AHL team that DeAngelo also requested for playing time
4) been in an altercation with Kreider and Geo
5) Gorton is even on record saying DeAngelo had broken his last straw. That sounds like a player who had issues and had been given chances no?

If NY could undo that contract signing its beyond obvious they would. There’s rumours out there he could be bought out in the off season. Your critical thinking skills need some work

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

And since then they
1) offered him league wide for free via waivers with no takers
2) told him he’s done with the organization (played his last game)
3) refused to assign him to the AHL squad (despite his request) also didn’t loan him to another AHL team that DeAngelo also requested for playing time
4) been in an altercation with Kreider and Geo
5) Gorton is even on record saying DeAngelo had broken his last straw. That sounds like a player who had issues and had been given chances no?

If NY could undo that contract signing its beyond obvious they would. There’s rumours out there he could be bought out in the off season. Your critical thinking skills need some work

bunch half truths and rumors

 

[DingDongCharlie]

bunch half truths and rumors

Literally everything there is exactly what happened as confirmed by quotes from your own organization. And he cleared waivers and isn’t on another AHL roster so....

 

[TFHockey]

None of these deals make any sense.
Buffalo has enough bad contracts. They're going to take a 2nd to give us a solid back-up and eat 5M cap space for 2 more seasons for us? Get real.
Getslaf may not be scoring as much as he used to, but he's sure as hell worth more than a second rounder plus a 4th line winger who can play on the PP.
2 firsts (assume they'd be late ones), a prospect whose offense likely won't convert in the NHL and 2 cap dumps for a first line winger?
What on earth...

I have to disagree with you on a few of your points.

Ullmark is a pending UFA. I have heard Buffalo is trying to sign him but they run the risk of him walking for nothing at the end of the year. They'll need someone to play goal if he gets dealt. So ya it's a fair offer.

Getzlaf might not waive for Edmonton, this is a fact. However he is also a pending UFA and the Ducks could deal him and then sign him in the off season for a short one year contract, allowing him to retire in Anaheim. So they get a 2nd and only lose Getzlaf for a few weeks. Also, he is on the IR right now so this may all be moot anyway.

Gaudreau isn't happy in Calgary and looks to me to be run out of there by Sutter. He'll be dealt by the beginning of next season in my opinion. Does Calgary want him to be dealt to their provincial rivals? No, but if Holland makes the best offer they should take it. The two contracts are low in cap, cash, and term.

Take a look at things in this light. They are not as absurd as you try and make them sound. If you want to criticize something it is worth pointing out the Oilers are dealing a lot of picks for guys who are pending UFAs.

Of course, you can always post your own trade proposal.