Buffalo is asking for a 1st but no one is biting. I don't see Hall getting that at full crack ($8 Million). Even at 50% retained I am not sure he gets a 1st.
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Buffalo is asking for a 1st but no one is biting. I don't see Hall getting that at full crack ($8 Million). Even at 50% retained I am not sure he gets a 1st.
Ill comp the others, no way Sabres takes Koskinen’s contract for just a second. And give Ullmark in the mix too, as he might net then a second on his own.
redgrant
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I'm more or less of the same mindset. Holland should keep up with his short term low cap hit bets til guys like Holloway and broberg are ready.
The kryptonite to this team will be signing a guy like hall 7m for 6 years and he becomes a disaster like Neal, Lucic etc.
50% would make it a lot easier to fit in, but you still have to send out 4M in cap, so Neal, Larsson or Russell. I'm guessing you have to add to the asking price if it's Neal for a certainty, possibly if it's Russell and Larsson you wouldn't need to add. I think the hole the Oilers can fill at the TDL this year is a strong faceoff man. Ryan or Glendening, I don't think they will do anything else.
He passed through waivers unclaimed. A cap dump is exactly what he is.
ElPrimeTime
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The deal has Koskinen involved. For me, it would be something around:
Hall (50% retained) + Hutton/Ullmark for a Koskinen, Caleb Jones, Chiasson and a combination of picks (2-4) and/or a B level prospect.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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How's ADA not a cap dump? Right now his hockey career is in jeopardy, He's a locker room cancer that just passed through waivers. No sane GM is taking him on which means that Gorton will buy him out this summer.
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Murray indicated he wouldn't ask him to waive, would only do it if Getz requested it, and Getz stated he wanted to retire a 1 team player. I don't see him changing his mind and suddenly wanting to leave his family and sunny CA for a longshot playoff run in EDM
Number1RedWingsFan52
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I don't have to do my homework on it, No sane GM is taking on ADA and his $4,800,000 cap hit for another season. His career is definitely done in New York some team might take a chance on him this summer once Gorton buys him out but it wont be for nowhere what he's making now.
1. he is well worth the money
2. story and his issues were way overblown by some media and fans
3. pretty sure he learned his lesson
I think he pretty much summed up Tony DeAngelo. He is a locker room cancer. Has been labeled as that in juniors, then in Tampa, then again in Arizona, now again in New York. He was given 1 more opportunity and ended up getting into an altercation with Georgiev. Rangers state he's played his last game with the Rangers. He past through waivers without a sniff. DeAngelo begged to have the opportunity to play in the AHL. Rangers didn't want him and his personality around their young core in the AHL. No other team had any interest. There hasn't been a peep around anyone trading for him. It's expected that he'll be bought out of him contract in the offseason. So if he traded (let's be honest, he won't be) it'll either be for a cap dump, or with another asset to unload him.
if he was a cancer and so bad, why did Rangers sign him to 4.8 mil last fall? Makes no sense, does it? Maybe there is a flaw in your theory?
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Apparently overblown with Krieder's fist too.
ADA will get bought out and it is very possible someone offers a 1yr 1.25m flier on the guy. But there is zero shot ADA is making 4.8m next year.
That deal does work in terms of cap. But do you see any incentive there for Buffalo to do this? Jones is a 7th defenseman, then you are sending two bad contracts for nothing of value. There's no prospect or pick in there that get's Buffalo excited. They are asking for a 1st for Hall alone. Now you're adding their young starter and dumping bad cap on them and sending them a lesser return. They are better off letting Hall walk for nothing than accepting that package.
Yeah you're probably right. It's why the Rangers refuse to play him, won't send him to the AHL, and no teams are lining up for the opportunity to trade for him.
He didn't learn it any of the past times either. This was hardly the first incident. He also has questionable value on the ice. As good as he is offensively, he's even worse in his own end. This is a player who might get signed to a league minimum deal or receive a PTO after a buyout. No one is taking on that money.
Groo
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Been a fan of Hertl for years and I think he'd be a good finisher for either of McDrai.
Not even close? How far off and what would need to be added to a blue chip defenseman and 1st round pick?
Groo
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You're asking for the Sharks top center. That's the value going forward.
Hertl is the last guy who ought to be traded. He's also doesn't fit the re-tool on the build on the run type of tradeable material.
I don't see a prospect that plays the back end being the main piece. It would have to be a top forward prospect. You know the one. Your first is no doubt going to be at the tail end so I'd say another + would be warranted.
That's fair. I also don't think San Jose should trade him either for reasons you stated.
I would do Holloway + 1st + as well, but that's just me.
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