McKenzie: Moved: McKenzie: Oilers in on Barrie? (Moves by Colorado-- Merged)

[underdog]

Where are the 30 goals Eberle can score when healthy coming from next year? We need him more now with Hall gone.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Oilers could trade ebs, sign Hemsky as a second line right winger.

 

[Freudian]

I think Avs, especially Roy, would ask for Draisaitl. Avs seem to want size in the middle and with Duchene/MacKinnon and Jost in the future, they are a bit small. Söderberg is a bigger guy but more of a great 3C than anything and I have a feeling he might be lost in the expansion draft.

Draisaitl has the size and potential to play down the middle. Avs can protect him with the players they have.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Until one of them was taken by Vegas. Whichever won't be protected.

Just protect 4 and 4:

F- Eberle, Draisaitl, RNH, Lucic(*)
D- Sekera, Barrie, Klefbom, Larsson

McDavid, Puljujarvi and Nurse are exempt, and that's basically the core right there. Vegas can pick from the likes of Davidson, Pouliot, Maroon, Yakupov and Letestu.

 

[Del Preston]

You can only protect 3 defenseman.

No.

7 forwards, 3 defensemen, 1 goalie; or 8 skaters, 1 goalie

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

It really makes me happy to see Edmonton forced to give up some of their offensive nucleus for some defence.

 

[McIce Whole]

You can only protect 3 defenseman.

You can protect 4 if you go down the 8 and 1 route. Mcdavid, Nurse and Puju would be exempt.

 

[TruGr1t]

I think Avs, especially Roy, would ask for Draisaitl. Avs seem to want size in the middle and with Duchene/MacKinnon and Jost in the future, they are a bit small. Söderberg is a bigger guy but more of a great 3C than anything and I have a feeling he might be lost in the expansion draft.

Draisaitl has the size and potential to play down the middle. Avs can protect him with the players they have.

Yep, I'd wager that's where it starts. Can't see the Avs having much interest in RNH with Duchene already there, and Eberle just doesn't have that type of value.

 

[Cogburn]

I don't think RNH as a main piece would serve Colorado well.

They have plenty of solid forwards, two of which are centers who are top line players already, so adding another potentially top line center isn't likely a high priority, unless MacKinnon or Duchene are already written off in another trade. Even then Grigorenko and Landeskog are both natural centers, or were, if memory serves.

If they resign Barrie, I think they are one, maybe two, top four defenders from being imposing on the blueline, where right now I feel that is their biggest weakness. It will be probably addressed in free agency, but I don't see anyone available that could fill the void Barrie would leave, if he were traded for a player in another role.

 

[Charlie Conway]

Eberle and a 1st should get it done.
Oilers need to be aware of how many players they need to protect.

Does little for the Avs, though. A winger would be nice, but they would certainly need a replacement to eat those minutes. I think they'd rather do something like Eberle+Nurse or RNH+Nurse or Drai+Nurse. Either way, they need a d-man coming in one way or another if Barrie is out.

 

[Avalanche2133]

Most likely gonna be Nuge and Nurse for Barrie and Mitchell.

Then Colorado will trade Duchene for Atkinson and Werenski.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

You can protect 4 if you go down the 8 and 1 route. Mcdavid, Nurse and Puju would be exempt.

Ah, I see. My bad then.

 

[airforceones25]

Just protect 4 and 4:

F- Eberle, Draisaitl, RNH, Lucic(*)
D- Sekera, Barrie, Klefbom, Larsson

McDavid, Puljujarvi and Nurse are exempt, and that's basically the core right there. Vegas can pick from the likes of Davidson, Pouliot, Maroon, Yakupov and Letestu.

So I'm assuming you're getting Barrie for free in this scenario

Nice try

 

[McSomnii]

A part of me is morbidly curious to see what Chiarelli is willing to give up for Barrie.

inb4 Draisatl++

 

[airforceones25]

Most likely gonna be Nuge and Nurse for Barrie and Mitchell.

Then Colorado will trade Duchene for Atkinson and Werenski.

You know you want Fowler for Duchene.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

So I'm assuming you're getting Barrie for free in this scenario

Nice try

Barrie could be Trouba, Lindholm even, whatever. The basis still stands- 4 and 4, or are the expansion draft rules different for the Ducks only?

 

[La Bamba]

Sekera - Barrie
Klefbom - Larsson

As a top 4 is definitely a defence that can get you into the playoffs. I'd be ecstatic with this defence as long as McDavid and Draisaitl are still on the team.

 

[Rebuilt]

https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/748566809385676800

no idea how to post tweets if someone could do so, I would appreciate it.

No. The Oilers arent trading for overpriced undersized Barrie. The Avs can keep him

 

[THall4]

So I'm assuming you're getting Barrie for free in this scenario

Nice try

Exactly, so expansion draft scenario isn't a concern...

 

[migi]

Barrie would be huge for Oilers. RNH + 1st should do it, maybe Reinhart too?

 

[THall4]

A part of me is morbidly curious to see what Chiarelli is willing to give up for Barrie.

inb4 Draisatl++

He wouldn't even move Draisaitl for Subban.

Drai is untouchable.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Does Draisatl and Nurse need to be protected in the lottery?

Barrie and Rantanen for Nurse and Draisatl?

 

[Bordeleau Of Blood]

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/1...-trade-rumor-nathan-mackinnon-contract-talks/

“I’d like to do a long-term deal with Tyson. If that doesn’t work out, it’s expected he’ll go to arbitration,” Sakic said. “Either way, he’ll be here.”

Chiarelli is free to covet him as much as he wants, though.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Barrie is one of the best young puck moving dmen out there... the price is gonna be huge from Oilers side. Im actually very nervous to see what Chiarelli will give up for him if it happens

 

[YP44]

Nuge and '17 1st for Barrie.

A d man has to be in there no?

Just looking at their d and expansion draft, Sekera has to be protected do to NMC leaving Klefbom, Nurse, larsson and reinhart needing protection in expansion. if they aquire Barrie how in the hell would their expansion protection work?

I don't see the regime that just paid a mount for Larsson and Renihart to leave either unprotected or trade either (obviously). So that leaves Nurse and Klefbom. Klefbom seems like he is further in his development which Edmonton should value more right now. So I think that would make Nurse the odd man out.

Eberle + Nurse? I don't know