Value of: Monahan

[Scintillating10]

If Monahan continues to play like this what could Habs get for him at deadline? Keep in mind Montreal can retain 50%. He has had good start to season.

Normal we would try and re-sign him but Habs be in Bedard sweepstakes. Speed, size, character, good on faceoffs some of his characteristics I noticed. About a solid #2 NHL center I would grade Monahan.

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[Larry Hanson]

Seriously, it depends on how he preforms but it's really early.

Pump the brakes here.

That being said, I hope he scores 30 but I'm not holding my breath. I'd love to see him in Calgary next year on a cheap deal but I can't see trading much to get him back this year unless he had a great year.

 

[Scintillating10]

Seriously, it depends on how he preforms but it's really early.

Pump the brakes here.

That being said, I hope he scores 30 but I'm not holding my breath. I'd love to see him in Calgary next year on a cheap deal but I can't see trading much to get him back this year unless he had a great year.

A good #2 NHL center with 50% retain would have high value. Habs be asking for a first plus

 

[NewEraGM]

If he can get to 25G-25A pace by the deadline, I think teams would offer a late first with 50% retained.

Colorado maybe? NYR? Not sure who else needs centres

 

[Larry Hanson]

A good #2 NHL center with 50% retain would have high value. Habs be asking for a first plus

Well ya, if he gets there. Don't get me wrong I hope he does but it's a long shot.

 

[madmike77]

A good #2 NHL center with 50% retain would have high value. Habs be asking for a first plus

Scoring wasn’t Monahan‘s big issue (until the last couple of years). It’s the fact he’s a poor skater which makes him a defensive liability at C. I don’t think any good team would be slotting him as a 2C.

 

[Lockin17]

Scoring wasn’t Monahan‘s big issue (until the last couple of years). It’s the fact he’s a poor skater which makes him a defensive liability at C. I don’t think any good team would be slotting him as a 2C.

Agree , 3rd center at best.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

If Monahan continues to play like this what could Habs get for him at deadline? Keep in mind Montreal can retain 50%. He has had good start to season.

Normal we would try and re-sign him but Habs be in Bedard sweepstakes. Speed, size, character, good on faceoffs some of his characteristics I noticed. About a solid #2 NHL center I would grade Monahan.

He's not a solid #2C on any contender.

He has a track record of starting off strong and then completely falling apart by the AS break. Even at a 3.2M cap hit there will probably be more appealing rental options for contenders, but I could see him getting the Habs a mid round pick if he continues to play well.

 

[Lockin17]

A late 2nd rd pick in 2023 would be great.
Don't forget that the habs allready got a fisrt pick for taking him in.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

way too early to tell hes value and Monahan isnt a #2 center

 

[Djp]

If Monahan continues to play like this what could Habs get for him at deadline? Keep in mind Montreal can retain 50%. He has had good start to season.

Normal we would try and re-sign him but Habs be in Bedard sweepstakes. Speed, size, character, good on faceoffs some of his characteristics I noticed. About a solid #2 NHL center I would grade Monahan.

assuming he doesn’t have a career year and is healthy…

thr problrm is his cap hit.

look around at what teams have the cap space to absorb $3M cap hit?

in terms of actual salary this season…Pat Kane will be less than 50% of ehst Monahan is owed. This becomes a big factor in the cost to include a third team to retain on him.

actual money ( not cap hit) determines what you have to pay a middle team to retain.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

A good #2 NHL center with 50% retain would have high value. Habs be asking for a first plus

Lol. If thats the case, Monahan will remain a Hab all season.


He is absolutely not worth even close to a 1st round pick.

 

[blankall]

If he can get to 25G-25A pace by the deadline, I think teams would offer a late first with 50% retained.

Colorado maybe? NYR? Not sure who else needs centres

Even then I don't see it. The question will be can he reproduce those numbers on a team besides the Habs.

The Habs have been trying to sign and trade vets for years. How many have actually brought in these huge returns?

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

If Monahan keeps playing like what?

He had a goal against Toronto but was otherwise pretty bad, and hasn't done anything since.

 

[Captain97]

If Monahan keeps playing like what?

He had a goal against Toronto but was otherwise pretty bad, and hasn't done anything since.

Um he's looked pretty good and has quite a few good chances.

 

[Puckstuff]

if he can put up 35 points before the deadline he would be worth similar to what Andrew Copp got which was 2 2nd round rounds picks a 3rd and a medium tier prospect.

but I would suspect he doesn't and he will be closer value to 1 2nd round pick and 3rd round pick.

 

[jfhabs]

assuming he doesn’t have a career year and is healthy…

thr problrm is his cap hit.

look around at what teams have the cap space to absorb $3M cap hit?

in terms of actual salary this season…Pat Kane will be less than 50% of ehst Monahan is owed. This becomes a big factor in the cost to include a third team to retain on him.

actual money ( not cap hit) determines what you have to pay a middle team to retain.

Actual money owed is the least important factor for a playoff team. Le Lenght and cap hit is what counts.

Even then I don't see it. The question will be can he reproduce those numbers on a team besides the Habs.

The Habs have been trying to sign and trade vets for years. How many have actually brought in these huge returns?

Toffoli, Kulak and Chiarot.
Before last season we were very rarely sellers.we were signing vets to compete not trade them away...

 

[Double Dion]

if he can put up 35 points before the deadline he would be worth similar to what Andrew Copp got which was 2 2nd round rounds picks a 3rd and a medium tier prospect.

but I would suspect he doesn't and he will be closer value to 1 2nd round pick and 3rd round pick.

They are very different players. Copp touches every area. Monahan pre-injury was lethal in the slot and good in the face-off circle. He positioned himself well defensively, but didn't have the wheels to keep up with fast centers. He really tried to be physical last season, but it's just not his game.

I wish him well, but he isn't Andrew Copp.

Actual money owed is the least important factor for a playoff team. Le Lenght and cap hit is what counts.

Toffoli, Kulak and Chiarot.
Before last season we were very rarely sellers.we were signing vets to compete not trade them away...

You guys destroyed us on that Toffoli trade. I said at the time my max was Valimaki and a 2nd.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

A good #2 NHL center with 50% retain would have high value. Habs be asking for a first plus

I remember when Habs fans said the Flames would be lucky to get Struble of Norlinder for Gaudreau. Now Monahan is worth a 1st?

What are you guys smoking over there besides meat?

 

[Eggtimer]

I’m cheering for him to rebound , but it’s a little early to pass judgement . He has had multiple major surgeries to his shoulder / hip/ hand. Wait and see if he can sustain this level of play before people say he is a 25g 25a player .

 

[Empoleon8771]

Lmao of course fans on this site would say a cap dump now has the value of a 1st+ because of a week long sample size.

 

[jfhabs]

I remember when Habs fans said the Flames would be lucky to get Struble of Norlinder for Gaudreau. Now Monahan is worth a 1st?

What are you guys smoking over there besides meat?

Weed of course haha
But really Struble or Norlinder vs Gaudreau? We have many fans here, but I think 99.9% of our fan base wouldn't think or say that.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I remember when Habs fans said the Flames would be lucky to get Struble of Norlinder for Gaudreau. Now Monahan is worth a 1st?

What are you guys smoking over there besides meat?

I remember when Flames fans said that Monahan had positive value in the 2022 offseason and that the only way Calgary eould give up a 1st for Toffoli was if Montreal retained 50% of the contract.

Then again, I also remember that it wasn't all or even most Flames fans. But I also know that "I remember when [Team] fans" statements are almost universally idiotic.

Monahan has looked better and healthier in the pre-season/3 games this year than he has in years. But his trade value will be decided by a larger sample.

People also seem to still not understand how the flat cap has changed the trade market and we're almost out of the flat cap era.

 

[Puckstuff]

They are very different players. Copp touches every area. Monahan pre-injury was lethal in the slot and good in the face-off circle. He positioned himself well defensively, but didn't have the wheels to keep up with fast centers. He really tried to be physical last season, but it's just not his game.

I wish him well, but he isn't Andrew Copp.


You guys destroyed us on that Toffoli trade. I said at the time my max was Valimaki and a 2nd.

Monahan at 6.375 million is negative value.
Monahan at 3.2 million or 50 % cap retention is decent value at his current form.
But Monahan with a return to form and 50 % cap retention and pacing 50 points as a good defensive C would get a very good return and the price would be similar to what Copp got last season on the high end and on the low end a 1st or 2nd and a 3rd.

 

[Recipe Unlimited]

If he's having a very good season (70 pt pace) and he's the best center available then he could probably get a late first. Otherwise I think we're looking closer to a second round pick with a sweetener.