Player Discussion Mitch Marner

[thewave]

Even though he was out for a while it looks like Marner is going to lead the team in assists again.
He's tied now with Nylander in 13 less games.

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Not sure how many years in a row this makes, 5/6?

Well he is currently almost making as much as Matthews to lead the team in assists. I sure hope he wins it or else it's quite embarrassing really. I doubt Nylander is going to offer our team any added value when his new contract kicks in. I am dreading what the damage is for Marner as well. Last thing we need to win a cup is 3 Forwards @ 40m and a D core and depth of made of bargain bin spare parts.

 

[KaN19]

His next contract negotiation is going to be fairly straight forward. Over the course of their careers Marner has been proven to be better than Nylander while worse than Matthews. $12-$12.75m is his window.

Time to make big changes to the core was last summer with Nylander not having a full-NTC. Seeing as we're committed to this group, Mitch's new deal should be done before next season starts.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

His next contract negotiation is going to be fairly straight forward. Over the course of their careers Marner has been proven to be better than Nylander while worse than Matthews. $12-$12.75m is his window.

Time to make big changes to the core was last summer with Nylander not having a full-NTC. Seeing as we're committed to this group, Mitch's new deal should be done before next season starts.

All very true.

It's a hard pill to swallow looking at the top paid players in the league.
McDavid - 12.5M
Mackinnon - 12.6M

I'm having such a tough time reconciling paying Mitch an equal or greater value. Our past mistakes shouldn't compound into future ones.

It's like the Leafs own cap eco-system is the new comparable rather than the reality of the 31 other teams.

I'll try not to get into it but looking at Hanifin's deal I'm feeling continued despair at our lack on investment and talent on D.

 

[Leafsfan74]

He's not even making 2M right now, he's making 3M lol. No way he's taking less after this season.

He may not take less but he won't be making a great more here or elsewhere. Leafs can't overpay market value for term anymore, the Core ensured this.

It's why I begged for changes last season when they had a chance to trade either Nylander, Marner or both.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Let's hope Mitchy recovers from his high ankle sprain before da playoff starts .. we all need a healthy Mitchy who has his edgework working perfect .. you can see he is struggling right now

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Leafs can have both once Tavares contract comes off the books. Worst case they'll have to wait until the summer of 2025.

Tavares won't be coming off the books.

 

[keonsbitterness]

That's the guy we are going to war with against Florida. LOL. Good Luck.

Those answers really mattered to you?

Tavares won't be coming off the books.

Big chunk of his cap hit will.

 

[ToneDog]

Those answers really mattered to you?

Big chunk of his cap hit will.

Nope. Picture was enough.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Nope. Picture was enough.

Jacket not your style?

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Not a fan of his game. Hope he picks it up for the playoffs but I have a feeling he is going to get pushed around to the perimeter as usual and be neutralized.

 

[ACC1224]

Not a fan of his game. Hope he picks it up for the playoffs but I have a feeling he is going to get pushed around to the perimeter as usual and be neutralized.

If he continues to be a PPG player and leading scorer is that enough or does he single handily need to win 4 rounds?

 

[Antropovsky]

A few months ago, a few board members said Marner was the better player between Marner and Panarin.

Panarin is 4th in points in the league

81 gp 48 goals 78 assists and 118 points

Panarin has 41 points more than the next Ranger and certainly doesn't have a linemate near the caliber of Matthews. And Panarin is doing it at the age of 32.

Kinda curious if those members still think Marner is better.

 

[socko]

His next contract negotiation is going to be fairly straight forward. Over the course of their careers Marner has been proven to be better than Nylander while worse than Matthews. $12-$12.75m is his window.

Time to make big changes to the core was last summer with Nylander not having a full-NTC. Seeing as we're committed to this group, Mitch's new deal should be done before next season starts.

I'm not sure I see that. Marner is the same player he was 6 years ago. Completely stagnant. Nylander has been improving every year. I'm not paying a guy more because he was the better player 6 years ago. One of these guys is a 40 goal scorer without playing on the top line. Not to mention Matthews looks pretty good playing with Domi.

 

[Menzinger]

All very true.

It's a hard pill to swallow looking at the top paid players in the league.
McDavid - 12.5M
Mackinnon - 12.6M

I'm having such a tough time reconciling paying Mitch an equal or greater value. Our past mistakes shouldn't compound into future ones.

It's like the Leafs own cap eco-system is the new comparable rather than the reality of the 31 other teams.

I'll try not to get into it but looking at Hanifin's deal I'm feeling continued despair at our lack on investment and talent on D.

I absolutely get what you're saying but context matters. McDavid signed his deal when the cap was under 80 mil and.was predicted for a rapid rise before the covid seasons changed things. His next deal is going to be considerably higher than a 12.5 aav

That said, the absolute limit on any Marners aav raise has to be what Matthews got - 1.61 mil,.and ideally less.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I absolutely get what you're saying but context matters. McDavid signed his deal when the cap was under 80 mil and.was predicted for a rapid rise before the covid seasons changed things. His next deal is going to be considerably higher than a 12.5 aav

That said, the absolute limit on any Marners aav raise has to be what Matthews got - 1.61 mil,.and ideally less.

That's a strong argument for the McDavid contract and well done

What about the more recent MacKinnon contract? Perennial hart candidate if not hart favorite, cup winner, unanimous top 3 player in the game. How could we not consider league wide context and ask ourselves if we're truly not making a mistake? We'd be price matching with a champion of the highest calibre and it's not fair for us to pay for the results we've seen

 

[stickty111]

Another goal allowed on the PK since Marner came back. His fans have some explaining to do.

 

[GoonieFace]

Another goal allowed on the PK since Marner came back. His fans have some explaining to do.

He wasn’t even on the ice. At this point it’s obvious their Pk sucks because they just sit back and do nothing

 

[ACC1224]

Another 3 points tonight, starting to look like he’s getting back to normal.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

Tonight was Marner at his best

Finding teammates, not overthinking the game and great dzone play

 

[DarkKnight]

Another goal allowed on the PK since Marner came back. His fans have some explaining to do.

Mark Hunter left the Leafs six years ago.

To be fair, Marner did yell from the bench on the PK for Nylander to cover the weak side forward when they scored. Your comment says it all about your contributions here, thanks.

 

[666]

Another goal allowed on the PK since Marner came back. His fans have some explaining to do.

This is the biggest problem with people who don't understand Marner. It's hard to see how great he is when you don't even know when he's on the ice.

 

[DarkKnight]

This is the biggest problem with people who don't understand Marner. It's hard to see how great he is when you don't even know when he's on the ice.

And don't even get him started about Edmundson last night.

 

[ACC1224]

And don't even get him started about Edmundson last night.

That’s one thing we’ll give this generation, they aren’t afraid to say what they think no matter how dumb it is.

 

[Notsince67]

Mark Hunter left the Leafs six years ago.

To be fair, Marner did yell from the bench on the PK for Nylander to cover the weak side forward when they scored. Your comment says it all about your contributions here, thanks.

 

[DarkKnight]

I know I know, but he's on a 103 point pace for the season, which would be the third time per game scoring at that rate. 8 points in 5 games without Matthews "carrying" him too.