Minnesota Wild General Discussion - 2023-24
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I can't take that site seriously; why the hell would they play Faber on his off-hand?There is various speculation about Rossi. For example:
The Wild Should Target David Jiricek In A Marco Rossi Trade
The Minnesota Wild are thinking about trading Marco Rossi, and the Columbus Blue Jackets need a center. David Jiricek feels like a natural trade target because he could use a change of scenery. Jiricek would bring another element of offense to the Wild’s power play that can use scoring depth. He’...hockeywilderness.com
Because his value is higher than it ever has been - and lets be honest, when not playing with Kap and Zucc, the kid looked like he belonged in the AHL.
Sure he still has room to grow - it was his first pro year etc. You are however delusional if you think he is a 1C or even legit 2C on a team that has a real shot at winning the cup.
I'd definitely consider a Jiricek for Rossi trade, and I like Rossi. Huge RHD with skill and talent on an ELC...yes, please. Between he and Faber, that will help anchor our D at a very difficult position to find for the next 10 years or so.
Rossi's work ethic, and improvement over the summer have been very impressive, but i still see the same limitations that I did in earlier years, and there isn't much he can do about them. He is still small, with average speed and strength(he used to be below average). Smart, and with good(not great) puck skills, but doesn't have the speed, reach or quickness to gain separation from defenders to use those skills effectively.
I'm sure he will get a little bit stronger, and a little bit faster as he matures, but his frame limits him.
Happy to keep him rather than to do a bad trade, but the Jiricek one is interesting.
Rossi's work ethic, and improvement over the summer have been very impressive, but i still see the same limitations that I did in earlier years, and there isn't much he can do about them. He is still small, with average speed and strength(he used to be below average). Smart, and with good(not great) puck skills, but doesn't have the speed, reach or quickness to gain separation from defenders to use those skills effectively.
I'm sure he will get a little bit stronger, and a little bit faster as he matures, but his frame limits him.
Happy to keep him rather than to do a bad trade, but the Jiricek one is interesting.
DANOZ28
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im delusional? so you have a crystal ball and know exactly how rossi's career will turn out hmmmmm do tell. (i call bs)
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MuckOG
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Last I saw he was questionable for tonight's game. I haven't seen that he has joined the team in California, so I'm guessing he won't be playing.
How many 5'9 180lb 1C/2C's on legit contenders exist out there? Now tell me how many of those have average speed/strength and skills like Rossi?
On a C starved team like the Wild - anyone remotely resembling a serviceable C gets way over-valued...I get it.
He is a good prospect - one that probably will still improve/grow in his game. He is however a 3C or a top6 winger on a legit team.
Mike C
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saw saw report from the athletic that he didn't skate this morning and is officially ruled out
Dr Jan Itor
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Right - I am sure he would have a place in either of those spots on this team. My preference would be to capitalize on his impressive rookie season to trade him for some young help on D. I think that would be smart asset management - we have quite a bit more help coming to the forward group than we do our D core from our prospect pool...Rossi would be a loss, but an acceptable one if we could improve our D core.
I've seen enough of your "takes" to understand your opinion on what is or isn't a bad take is irrelevant.
Someone that Centers the likely Art Ross/Hart trophy winner.
Also - bigger and a much better skater than Rossi.
That’s not what I asked. I asked you to evaluate him like you’re evaluating Rossi.
Point is not bigger. He’s 1 inch taller and weighs 4lb less.
Dr Jan Itor
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He’s exactly what Rossi should strive to replicate. Just a couple of years along from what Point did due to the Myocarditis lost year. So compare Rossi’s 22 y/o season to Point’s 20 y/o season. I’d like to see Rossi jump to 60+ points next year to follow the trajectory.
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Give him some regular PP time and a decent winger on a consistent basis and 60+ pts should be doable
Much better skater than Rossi - equivalent or better hockey IQ.
Point is 2 inches taller - Rossi is listed at 5'9 and Point 5'11.
I wonder if the 4lbs is what allows him to blow Rossi's doors off in the skating department?
HFboards User will never learn to be patient. After all Rossi has been through (COVID, 2 bad coaches, playing with scrubs) he still manged it to put up a 20/20 season. He got better & better every year (minus the COVID year) and did everything they've asked him to do. They use him in front of the net on PP2 but he should play as a playmaker with the puck on his stick in those situations. His playmaking abilities are one of his strengths alongside his Hockey IQ and work ethic but they didn't usehis strengths so far.
I think his development isn't over. I don't get Guerin. Why do you draft a smallish player if you value size over pretty much everything. Size alone won't win you any hockey games.
I think his development isn't over. I don't get Guerin. Why do you draft a smallish player if you value size over pretty much everything. Size alone won't win you any hockey games.
All of this and especially the fact that I was still watching him get better all the way through this season. He was bounced all over the lineup and his pp2 time was with an abysmal unit.
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I am surprised to find the Wild are the shortest team in the league:
www.eliteprospects.com
Maybe it's a junk stat, as Colo is second smallest and pretty damn good, but still, the NHL is a VERY physical league so size never really hurt anything.
I am surprised to find the Wild are the shortest team in the league:
Elite Prospects - Team Comparison in NHL
Compare average height, weight and age in NHL.
www.eliteprospects.com
Maybe it's a junk stat, as Colo is second smallest and pretty damn good, but still, the NHL is a VERY physical league so size never really hurt anything.
