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Miri

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Ya I don't know if it's exhaustion or what but he clearly wasn't engaged enough to protect himself. We're used to him looking like Bambi (always find it funny when opposing announcers talk about how hard it is to knock him down), but I can't recall seeing him get blown up like that once, nevermind twice in one night.
He did not protect himself, cause ekholm skated into him from behind.
 

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It was from the blindside near the boards. The possible concussion will be result of his fall to the ice and hitting his head against it, and it only happened cause he never seen the hit coming. If he saw it, he would position himself to at least mitigate the fall somehow.

I dont care if its ok by the rules. It should not be, strictly by the fact it results in serious injuries. If Mikko is done for the year now, people will now say oh bad luck and similar BS… there was no luck involved, as it was completely preventable.

If this was Toews injuring say Draisaitl, i would have said the same.
So you gotta make eye contact with the other guy before a hit now?
 
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It was from the blindside near the boards. The possible concussion will be result of his fall to the ice and hitting his head against it, and it only happened cause he never seen the hit coming. If he saw it, he would position himself to at least mitigate the fall somehow.

I dont care if its ok by the rules. It should not be, strictly by the fact it results in serious injuries. If Mikko is done for the year now, people will now say oh bad luck and similar BS… there was no luck involved, as it was completely preventable.

If this was Toews injuring say Draisaitl, i would have said the same.
Blindside hits are not illegal. The onus is on Rantanen to be aware of his surroundings.
 

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It’s a dirty hit. It’s essentially a hit from behind.

Stop the video when Ekholm is like a stride away preparing to hit him and Mikko is facing the other direction. It was a cheap shot for sure.

“Keep your head up, Mikko?”

And see what? He’s facing the other direction.
 

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It’s a dirty hit. It’s essentially a hit from behind.

Stop the video when Ekholm is like a stride away preparing to hit him and Mikko is facing the other direction. It was a cheap shot for sure.

“Keep your head up, Mikko?”

And see what? He’s facing the other direction.
Mikko had the chance to check his surroundings. He did not get hit from behind and the puck was right there like one second prior. Somewhere in the early 2000’s players lost the plot that they need to look out for themselves. Hell, now half the time they turn into bad positions prior to the hit.

It would be irresponsible of Ekholm not to hit Mikko there. Make a player nervous to play the puck, he will force errors from the opposition by playing the body and making them rush plays. It’s not his fault Mikko did not have awareness of the situation, especially after he’d been truck already in that game. Edmonton is a team that is trying to prove to themselves that they can hang with the upper echelon teams, a team that played very poorly the game prior. A team trying to set their tone for the playoffs. A team that has not had much success against us for some time, expect physical play and keep your head up.
 

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Mikko had the chance to check his surroundings. He did not get hit from behind and the puck was right there like one second prior. Somewhere in the early 2000’s players lost the plot that they need to look out for themselves. Hell, now half the time they turn into bad positions prior to the hit.

It would be irresponsible of Ekholm not to hit Mikko there. Make a player nervous to play the puck, he will force errors from the opposition by playing the body and making them rush plays. It’s not his fault Mikko did not have awareness of the situation, especially after he’d been truck already in that game. Edmonton is a team that is trying to prove to themselves that they can hang with the upper echelon teams, a team that played very poorly the game prior. A team trying to set their tone for the playoffs. A team that has not had much success against us for some time, expect physical play and keep your head up.
Again. Keep your head up and look at what? He’s facing the other direction.

You can debate the ‘legality’ of the hit, but it’s absolutely a cheap shot. It’s a blind side shot that’s extremely close to being a hit from behind.
 

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Again. Keep your head up and look at what? He’s facing the other direction.

You can debate the ‘legality’ of the hit, but it’s absolutely a cheap shot. It’s a blind side shot that’s extremely close to being a hit from behind.
Your surroundings, all you need to do is look to the right to see it coming. A quick shoulder check and he bails on the play or braces more appropriately. Maybe he’d have still gotten hurt but he had no chance in this scenario.

Forwards check their surroundings all the time in the offensive zone because they are more likely to be hit. He didn’t expect it there and therefore did not check, and paid the price.

On top of which the puck was gone.
Gone for less than one second lol
 

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Mikko definitely has a concussion looking at that video and reaction. Sit him until the playoffs, but even if he’s not out long he’s going to be vulnerable with future contact for a while
 

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Your surroundings, all you need to do is look to the right to see it coming. A quick shoulder check and he bails on the play or braces more appropriately. Maybe he’d have still gotten hurt but he had no chance in this scenario.

Forwards check their surroundings all the time in the offensive zone because they are more likely to be hit. He didn’t expect it there and therefore did not check, and paid the price.


Gone for less than one second lol
Except Ekholm was not coming from the right, but right back. You say yourself the puck was gone for less than a second, but in that timeframe Mikko was supposed to literally look behind him, while receiving the pass.
 

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A NHL winger along the boards trying to clear the puck out of his zone needs to be prepared for contact, or at least aware of the possibility of it. It happened twice. The Ekholm hit was from his 'blind side' but it wasn't from behind
“Blindside” is for all the purposes same as from behind. You can see both Mikkos and Ekholms numbers in that vid. Ekholm must have seen Mikkos numbers. Enough said.
 

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So you gotta make eye contact with the other guy before a hit now?
Who said anything about eye contact. But dont skate into players with force when you are out of their peripheral vision, so they can at least subconsciously, brace for impact. Its not hard, not sure what you dont understand about that.

Being “aware of surroundings” is nice phrase some of you keep waving around here, but its complete bullshit. Its not Call of Duty. The players dont have radar nor does their vision flash red on the side from which some skates toward them. Nor do they have a perk increasing enemy footsteps. I mean skate whatever is the right word.
 

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Well two games without Rantanen but we had our full compliment of depth players and Drouin and we got owned by Edmonton and Dallas by a combined 13-6 score.
 

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Well two games without Rantanen but we had our full compliment of depth players and Drouin and we got owned by Edmonton and Dallas by a combined 13-6 score.
One more time....we don't have a 70-pt player to replace him with because it is an injury. In a trade we would plus more. Completely different situations. Try again.
 

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This game against the Jets today was with all three of our star players and almost healthy. The Jets don't even have one player at the level of our top guys except for Helly and we lost 7-0.

Yeah let's re-sign Mikko at 12-13M so we have even less depth that we have right now. That will be so much fun to watch.
 

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Well two games without Rantanen but we had our full compliment of depth players and Drouin and we got owned by Edmonton and Dallas by a combined 13-6 score.
So Mikko showed up today?

It's funny because your observation should actually show more reason to trade Mikko. If we keep him and have even less depth, we are one Mikko injury away from icing a mostly AHL forward lineup.

Basically take that lineup and replace Drouin and Trenin with two Chris Wagner's.
 

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Well two games without Rantanen but we had our full compliment of depth players and Drouin and we got owned by Edmonton and Dallas by a combined 13-6 score.
Hmmm...I'm wondering how it went today with Mikko back in the lineup and mostly healthy?
 
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