Your Gigorenko example is bad. His stock because of his play went way up after he was drafted.Birko19 said:Ok fine, since you put it that way, compare Grigorenko (when he was 100%), to Nystom, Karlson, or whoever you wanna compare him to, ohh I guess just because he was drafted 62nd overall, that makes most prospects drafted ahead of him better, right? PLEASEEEEE, this is just some Red Wing hating going on here, I understand that Hudler is overrated and I agree on that, but to blow him out like that and say he's nowhere as good as Michalek just because he was drafted 58th overall is just too Homerish for me.
Sammy said:Your Gigorenko example is bad. His stock because of his play went way up after he was drafted.
There is no reason to say (other than bias) to say Hudlers stock has gone up or down since the draft, so to compare him as a prospect (in terms of who is a better prospect) to Michalek at this point is ludicrous .
I am not a San Jose or Michalek fan . I am simply not a fan of hype surrounding guys when there is no logical reason for it, at present.AJ1982 said:1) Just because I disagree with what seems to be the majority does not make me a homer, I'm not even a Red Wings fan. Perhaps the likes of Sammy and X-Sharkie are simply San Jose fans who overrate Michalek.
2) Draft positioning does not mean crap after the draft is done. All draft positioning tells you is what strategies teams are using to pick players for their future, who they THINK is better and who they
THINK will be better in the LONG run.
3) Apparently you guys are missing what Birko and I are trying to say. Michalek is legitimately the better prospect, but this is not a landslide victory for Michalek. Hudler also has many qualities and talents that make him an elite prospect.
I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
AJ1982 said:2) Draft positioning does not mean crap after the draft is done. All draft positioning tells you is what strategies teams are using to pick players for their future, who they THINK is better and who they
THINK will be better in the LONG run.
Hudler also has many qualities and talents that make him an elite prospect.
AJ1982 said:1) Just because I disagree with what seems to be the majority does not make me a homer, I'm not even a Red Wings fan. Perhaps the likes of Sammy and X-Sharkie are simply San Jose fans who overrate Michalek.
2) Draft positioning does not mean crap after the draft is done. All draft positioning tells you is what strategies teams are using to pick players for their future, who they THINK is better and who they
THINK will be better in the LONG run.
3) Apparently you guys are missing what Birko and I are trying to say. Michalek is legitimately the better prospect, but this is not a landslide victory for Michalek. Hudler also has many qualities and talents that make him an elite prospect.
I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
Cyclops II said:I AM a Sharks fan and i agree with you, AJ1982. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that the scouts screwed up again with Hudler.
I heard the Grand Rapids - Cleveland AHL game on the weekend. According to the Cleveland announcers Hudler was great. He had several chances to score and finally capitalized in overtime with a wicked shot. Maybe more importantly he set up many scoring chances with pin point passing. I consider this to be impressive because he was only just demoted so he has assimilated his teammates abilities (or lack thereof) very quickly.
I would take Michalek but not by a huge margin.