McDavid vs Lindros

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

You’d take an 18 year old Crosby over an 18 year old McDavid? Interesting.

I’d rate McDavid ahead of Crosby. He’s behind Gretzky for me but on par with Lemieux.

I guess I’m

1. Gretzky
2. Mcdavid
2b. Mario
4. Crosby
5. We can put Bonk here.

And yes. I saw all of them play when they were in the NHL.

You might have seen them but you didn’t watch them because there’s no way McDavid is on Lemieuxs level. None.

Isn’t there a goal somewhere where Lemieux is piggybacking an entire pairing and still scores?

 

[The Grim Reaper]

You might have seen them but you didn’t watch them because there’s no way McDavid is on Lemieuxs level. None.

Isn’t there a goal somewhere where Lemieux is piggybacking an entire pairing and still scores?

That’s the 80’s, so it doesn’t count.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

That’s the 80’s, so it doesn’t count.

Too bad Motley Crue didn’t get the memo….

 

[GreeningOil]

I take McJesus over any forward in their prime not named Gretzky, Lemieux, Crosby or Radek Bonk

B O N K

 

[snipes]

McDavid 2nd? GOod grief

Sid is better than McDavid at the same age...all day long.

Sid never reached a level that 2022 playoffs McDavid reached.

McDavid is better individually than Crosby ever was.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Sid never reached a level that 2022 playoffs McDavid reached.

McDavid is better individually than Crosby ever was.

McDavid, the first and second round assassin. Stealing OV’s title is an amazing accomplishment.

 

[lionsDen]

Lindros healthy

 

[Three On Zero]

McDavid 2nd? GOod grief

Sid is better than McDavid at the same age...all day long.

McDavid MIGHT surpass Crosby by the time his career is over, but he has yet to do that.

Both are better than Lindros though

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

McDavid MIGHT surpass Crosby by the time his career is over, but he has yet to do that.

Both are better than Lindros though

100% truth but I I have a hard time thinking GM’s would take either over Lindros if all three came out the same draft year.

Crosby is starting to get under rated for everything he’s already accomplished and it’s a damn shame.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Is it too bias for me to say Lindros played against better top-end goalies, scorers, and defensemen?

It probably is I guess.

 

[yeaher]

McDavid over Lindros. But saying McDavid over Lemieux is ridiculous; I'd take 22 Lindroses and one Lemieux and feel comfortable as f*** about the series v 23 McDavids.

 

[Three On Zero]

100% truth but I I have a hard time thinking GM’s would take either over Lindros if all three came out the same draft year.

Crosby is starting to get under rated for everything he’s already accomplished and it’s a damn shame.

Lindros adjusted for this era with the innovations in training, nutrition and equipment, likely would make it a hard argument

 

[bishop12]

McDavid MIGHT surpass Crosby by the time his career is over, but he has yet to do that.

Both are better than Lindros though

for sure....

Sid never reached a level that 2022 playoffs McDavid reached.

McDavid is better individually than Crosby ever was.

Of course he has....

And no, McDavid isn't as good as Sid was at his peak. Sid has won everything there is to win and has been at the fore fornt of it all.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Lindros adjusted for this era with the innovations in training, nutrition and equipment, likely would make it a hard argument

That’s why it’s so hard to do a “who’s better” considering the advancements of everything around the game when your using McDavid as one of the players against someone from a different era.

You can say McDavid would thrive in the 90’s because nobody could catch him….but somebody would have, and it probably would have been considered assault today. You cannot underestimate that during the 80’s and 90’s teams had hired thugs on the ice. I’m sorry guys, Geno Odjick is buying a ticket to get into an arena in this day and age if he came out in the draft.

But also, take into account Lindros was done at the age of 29. He had seasons after, but he was done. Lindros age 19 to 25 is one of the most physically dominating guys ever.

Still not close to Lemieux tho.

 

[OilWagon]

That’s why it’s so hard to do a “who’s better” considering the advancements of everything around the game when your using McDavid as one of the players against someone from a different era.

You can say McDavid would thrive in the 90’s because nobody could catch him….but somebody would have, and it probably would have been considered assault today. You cannot underestimate that during the 80’s and 90’s teams had hired thugs on the ice. I’m sorry guys, Geno Odjick is buying a ticket to get into an arena in this day and age if he came out in the draft.

But also, take into account Lindros was done at the age of 29. He had seasons after, but he was done. Lindros age 19 to 25 is one of the most physically dominating guys ever.

Still not close to Lemieux tho.

Wayne Gretzky was a twig with no muscle and he was able to play over 20 seasons in that rough era before he broke down. People in this thread acting like Mcdavid is frail or something, he's a big boy and strong on his feet, generally he avoids hits but when people make contact he's able to play through it.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

Wayne Gretzky was a twig with no muscle and he was able to play over 20 seasons in that rough era before he broke down. People in this thread acting like Mcdavid is frail or something, he's a big boy and strong on his feet, generally he avoids hits but when people make contact he's able to play through it.

If you are trying to compare McDavid to Gretzky, please don’t.

 

[OilWagon]

If you are trying to compare McDavid to Gretzky, please don’t.

Work on your reading comprehension friend

 

[MasterofGrond]

You cannot underestimate that during the 80’s and 90’s teams had hired thugs on the ice. I’m sorry guys, Geno Odjick is buying a ticket to get into an arena in this day and age if he came out in the draft.

Absolutely true, but that's a double edged sword.

The worst dude in the league today is a much better overall hockey player than the worst player in the mid 90s. the skill gap between best player on earth and out of the league is just narrower than it was 25 years ago.

 

[tabness]

Lindros easily

McDavid probably the best player since Lindros though (at least in terms of peak play) and in this league with this style of play you take McDavid (but this league and this style of play sucks and is soft so)

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Lindros was so much more than just points and imagine him playing around 78-82 games each season.

Lindros was sitting in the penalty box a lot too. You can’t put up points from there either.

Its close but a prime healthy Lindros with today’s advancements would be better and more fearful.

 

[Harry Waters]

What's with all the "Lindros would be better in the clutch-and-grab era"-comments? We are talking about the Lindros who played in that era and was not consistently on top. Why is he getting the benefit of doubt during the era he played in?

It is not like there were only 6'4 230 pound-monsters playing then. There were the Sakics, Bures and Kariyas as well. And multiple players performed better than Lindros.

It is somewhat strange to say that McDavid wouldn't survive this era when Lindros was the guy who didn't survive this era but somehow this argument goes against McDavid. That's some mental gymnastics right there.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

It is not like there were only 6'4 230 pound-monsters playing then. There were the Sakics, Bures and Kariyas as well. And multiple players performed better than Lindros.

PPG he was at the top of the list each season between 93 and 99. Dealing with injuries, Lemieux, Gretzky, Jagr & Stevens.

Ranked; 3, 1, 3, 2, 4, 4

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Lol at mcdavid being compared to lemieux

 

[reino]

McD is closer to Grezky than Lindros is to McD

 

[ijuka]

Mcdavid will never be on par with Lemieux. mcdavid will never be the goal scorer Lemieux was…ever. Playmaking similar. While mcdavid has the speed, Lemieux had the strength. Go YouTube “Lemieux scores breakaway with guy on his back”. Mcdavid is never scoring a goal like that.

Yes, McDavid will never score a goal like that because he skates away from the guy rather than letting him hang onto him. Why does that matter?