Value of: Max Domi in a hockey trade

[Captain Mountain]

a) since he started in the league his point total are: 52, 38, 45, 72, 44
His goals totals are: 18, 9, 9, 28, 17
What about any of those numbers are consistant? It is all over the map.

b) he got passed on a below average team by 2 rookies, one of who spent part of the year in AHL. Not to mention he has played wing part of his career too.

Hence why we are even talking about Domi because he is available for trade.

Domi is talented don't get me wrong but he hardly cemented himself as a 2nd line center in this league.

a) That isn't a real argument. Using raw totals to determine consistency is incredibly ill-conceived. Do injuries imply inconsistency? How about who you're playing with?

Outside of maybe a few players, everybody is inconsistent if all your doing is reading their HockeyDB page.

He's played at a 50+ point pace in all but 1 seasons of his career (and that was 45). That is the baseline of what he can do, and generally not playing with a lot of goal scoring talent. And his production is still unarguably 2nd line caliber.

b) One of the reasons that "below average" team was able to beat Pittsburgh and played so hard against Philly are those two rookies, who were probably Montreal's 2 best forwards. So I'm not sure why that's a knock against him.

I'm curious what you think a 2nd line center in the NHL is, or who the real 2nd line centers in the NHL are, if Domi isn't one.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

What do the Habs need? And what from the NYR?

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

What do the Habs need? And what from the NYR?

top 6 big skilled winger or LHD for weber

 

[Nothingbutglass]

a) That isn't a real argument. Using raw totals to determine consistency is incredibly ill-conceived. Do injuries imply inconsistency? How about who you're playing with?

Outside of maybe a few players, everybody is inconsistent if all your doing is reading their HockeyDB page.

He's played at a 50+ point pace in all but 1 seasons of his career (and that was 45). That is the baseline of what he can do, and generally not playing with a lot of goal scoring talent. And his production is still unarguably 2nd line caliber.

b) One of the reasons that "below average" team was able to beat Pittsburgh and played so hard against Philly are those two rookies, who were probably Montreal's 2 best forwards. So I'm not sure why that's a knock against him.

I'm curious what you think a 2nd line center in the NHL is, or who the real 2nd line centers in the NHL are, if Domi isn't one.

Why cant he carve out a role on two different teams if he brings so much? Isn't it weird that coaches cant seem to find the right "fit" to bring out the best in him?

 

[StartTheShow]

Even though Montreal players never get traded to where they are rumored to. What about the random idea of Domi and Chi 2nd rounder for Sadd and De Hann?

 

[montreal]

Even though Montreal players never get traded to where they are rumored to. What about the random idea of Domi and Chi 2nd rounder for Sadd and De Hann?

I threw up a little after reading that.

We don't have the cap for that anyway. I'm still holding out hope that MB is sticking to his plan and won't sell top prospects or top picks (unless it's to move up with those picks but MB doesn't believe in that) I hope he trades Domi for futures, but who knows what his plan is as this has been the longest he's actually stuck to one direction of sorts.

 

[Scintillating10]

To Winnipeg: Max Domi
To Montreal: Jack Roslovic, Logan Stanley, 2nd 2021

Just a random thought. Flame away but be gentle

There ain't much in that for Montreal

 

[Spazkat]

Comtois is a winger and Getz is getting really old

You left out the other C's.... Henrique, Lundestrom, Rowney and Backes. No matter what Domi isnt getting a top 6 C slot over Henrique or Getzlaf, and hes not defensively responsible enough for a 3C role even if he'd take a 3C salary. I dont see the appeal to losing Rakell for him

 

[le_sean]

What do the Habs need? And what from the NYR?

Buchnevich and something else.

 

[Legegendsofthenorth]

Not saying “no” but its not at the top of the list either.

Danault for Brodin is on the top of my list

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Buchnevich and something else.

This is probably a workable foundation

 

[Bigshow747]

You could always ask for Kreider. That way you don't have to worry about him taking Carey Price out in the playoffs.

 

[glenbuis]

What do the Habs need? And what from the NYR?

Not strome

 

[glenbuis]

Danault for Brodin is on the top of my list

Domi and a small add for Brodin extended I think

 

[glenbuis]

What do the Habs need? And what from the NYR?

Sorry that’s not very polite

 

[AKL]

Domi and a small add for Brodin extended I think

Domi would have to have a long term contract as well before it should even be considered.

 

[Bigshow747]

The thing is, teams that want a top 6 center that aren't in a full rebuild are New York, Winnipeg, Florida, Minnesota, and Arizona. San Jose, Detroit, Buffalo, and Anaheim could use him. The big questions are, do any of these teams see Domi as a center? If they do, are they willing to trade for him? If yes, do they have what Montreal wants?

New York could make sense, they have an abundance of wingers, picks, prospects, etc. They don't have the defensive help, but maybe Montreal thinks they're stronger there building internally with Romanov. Buchnevich is intriguing, Kreider brings physicality, Kravstov is probably bonafide. Brendan Lemiux adds snarl. Could be a fit.

Winnipeg could if they were willing to trade Laine or Ehlers. Connor would be who I ask for, but he's their best forward other than Scheifele. Would they trade Vesalainen, and their 1st for Montreal's 1st and Domi? Essentially moving a promising forward and moving back 6 spots for a bonafide number 2 that does not break up your top 6?

Florida, not sure they have what Montreal wants.

Minnesota. Insert your Dumba/Brodin proposal here.

Arizona is intriguing. OEL could be available. Not sure if Arizona takes Domi back.

Montreal could also look to get back up in the draft with Domi. A team like Anaheim might move back to pick up some scoring help.

Nashville is another dark horse team not afraid to make moves. Not sure who the odd man out is. To me Forsberg and Duchene are the only truly safe players. Maybe Montreal goes all in on Johansen? Wild card team at least.

 

[glenbuis]

Domi would have to have a long term contract as well before it should even be considered.

I’d settle for Dumba to . I know people will say there’s no room for him because of Petry and Weber but guys do play on their off side to . Between power plays and penalty killing the three off them could get over 20 minutes . Weber won’t have much in the tank if he plays 25 minutes a nite in a compressed 82 game schedule. Dumba being only 26 leaves us a top 4 d when Weber is moving on . Domi , fleury and a 4th for Dumba . The extras are for dealing with Ferris .

 

[AKL]

I’d settle for Dumba to . I know people will say there’s no room for him because of Petry and Weber but guys do play on their off side to . Between power plays and penalty killing the three off them could get over 20 minutes . Weber won’t have much in the tank if he plays 25 minutes a nite in a compressed 82 game schedule. Dumba being only 26 leaves us a top 4 d when Weber is moving on . Domi , fleury and a 4th for Dumba . The extras are for dealing with Ferris .

Domi still needs a long term contract. Not gonna risk getting strong armed by a guy who has all the leverage.

 

[glenbuis]

Domi still needs a long term contract. Not gonna risk getting strong armed by a guy who has all the leverage.

Well does anyone on here have ferris’s number . See what yous can work out . I hate to lose domi though . He’s got more character than them all except for gallagher

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Does nothing for the Habs.

 

[Snowman]

Winnipeg could if they were willing to trade Laine or Ehlers. Connor would be who I ask for, but he's their best forward other than Scheifele. Would they trade Vesalainen, and their 1st for Montreal's 1st and Domi? Essentially moving a promising forward and moving back 6 spots for a bonafide number 2 that does not break up your top 6?

No chance Winnipeg moves any of their top 5 or 10OA for Domi. None.

Especially with Domi's contact situation and agent.

 

[Tanknation]

Habs say "no"

 

[glenbuis]

Does nothing for the Habs.

If Dumba got back to full health he’s only two years removed from a fifty point season . He’s also only 26 and plays with a bit of grit as well . I could live with
Chariot Weber
Petry Dumba
Romanov kulak
Mete
On the back end

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If Dumba got back to full health he’s only two years removed from a fifty point season . He’s also only 26 and plays with a bit of grit as well . I could live with
Chariot Weber
Petry Dumba
Romanov kulak
Mete
On the back end

If someone is gonna play their offside, it would definitely be Dumba, not Petry. And im not sure Dumba has any experience playing that side