Martin Vagner

[SabresGuy*]

Just wondering if some posters could fill me in on the potential of this player. The Stars didnt resign him, so I am curious to know if he is a complete bust or just not worth the big money. Where does everyone think he will be chosen this year? What are his skills? Weaknesses? Would it be worth it for a team like the Sabres, who are devoid of blueline prospects, to take a late round flier on him? Thanks!

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[Starsdude]

I think he will likely fall to the 4-6 round. Has good size and can skate. I would even be happy if the stars took him around there.

 

[RaTcine]

I saw him play in the playoff and seriously he sucked...

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Take him in the 7th-9th.

That's where he'll fall if you ask me. He might even go undrafted for such a horrid year.

 

[goalienut]

I figure he'll turn into a 5th or 6th defenseman. I'd say 4th round.

 

[LaLaLaprise]

I figure he'll turn into a 5th or 6th defenseman. I'd say 4th round.

If he would turn into a 5th or 6th dman Dallas would have signed him.

 

[markov`]

Just wondering if some posters could fill me in on the potential of this player. The Stars didnt resign him, so I am curious to know if he is a complete bust or just not worth the big money. Where does everyone think he will be chosen this year? What are his skills? Weaknesses? Would it be worth it for a team like the Sabres, who are devoid of blueline prospects, to take a late round flier on him? Thanks!

I've seen him play 4 or 5 times this year. The duo Vagner - O'Brien was without a doubt the best pair of defensemen in the QJMHL. However, O'Brien is way better than Vagner.

Vagner has good skating skills, great vision, but lacks of heart. Really lacks of heart. I wouldn't take him before the 3rd round, but he could become into a NHLer if he want.

 

[montreal]

I'd say after 150th-170th I would think some teams will take him into consideration. I'd take Brain Lee before Vagner, might not be a bad idea for the Habs as they could use some help on defense in Hamilton next year if Dykhuis is bought out and Traverse, Plante and Cote not resigned.

Vagner is big and skates well, seems decent in his own end, saw him in the memorial cup and twice at the wjc's. I thought he was in trouble of being resigned then, cause I felt he was outplayed by Tomas Linhart, who had a tough time in the OHL last year and has really fallen down the Habs depth chart after being a high pick in '02. Still he has some skills, I would think some team takes a shot on him with the later pick.

 

[#2]

Ya i saw him Vagner play the Memorial Cup and i must admit he was ASS

 

[Dr GLU]

If he would turn into a 5th or 6th dman Dallas would have signed him.

Not if his agent was asking for more money than Daley signed for.

 

[Smarties]

Not if his agent was asking for more money than Daley signed for.

At last someone understood!!!! I kind of knew it would be you GLU !!!!

 

[leafaholix*]

He's awful... atleast the few times I saw him.

I say he goes undrafted.