March 2nd TDL

[Novacane]

His stats don't seem too bad. Have you actually seen this guy play or are you going by what you "think" based on stats?

I've seen him play. I don't look at stats. I don't judge opinions around players I haven't seen enough.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Sekera for Wiercioch and Ottawa's 1st

gogogo

 

[Anton Babchuk]

wiercioch make $2.7M in real dollars next year

why would we want him unless they are taking one of our bad contracts

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

wiercioch make $2.7M in real dollars next year

why would we want him unless they are taking one of our bad contracts

 

[bluedevil58*]

Multiple cups with this guy.

 

[JClaus33]

His stats don't seem too bad. Have you actually seen this guy play or are you going by what you "think" based on stats?

That's a pretty contradictory statement considering your whole judgment on him is based on his stats "Not seeming too bad" then immediately criticizing anyone who might dislike him based on his stats

 

[Anton Babchuk]

bellemore being bad doesn't make it a good idea to take on significant salary for a less bad defenseman

 

[A Star is Burns]

Aren't we supposed to stop reading after the words "Bruce Garrioch"?

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

bellemore being bad doesn't make it a good idea to take on significant salary for a less bad defenseman

i agree, but the only way to get moar better is to get less worse.

 

[bluedevil58*]

That's a pretty contradictory statement considering your whole judgment on him is based on his stats "Not seeming too bad" then immediately criticizing anyone who might dislike him based on his stats

I was not criticizing I was simply asking a question. Don't get your panties in a wad.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Aren't we supposed to stop reading after the words "Bruce Garrioch"?

Bruce is actually really connected. It surprised me.

I like Patrick, but he is just such an unknown, even though he's played a few years now. He does move the puck well, however he's quite weak on the puck and is the opposite of physical. He just doesn't play the body well at all despite having a big frame.

I think last year his analytics were actually damn good. But watching him, you'd think the exact opposite.

If he made $1 million, he'd be a guy that a lot of teams would take a chance on. But he doesn't.....

 

[nobuddy]

wiercioch is a fantastic player, by the way.

He's well above average in usage adjusted CF, CA, CF%, and points/60.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

wiercioch is a fantastic player, by the way.

He's well above average in usage adjusted CF, CA, CF%, and points/60.

corsi is a garbage stat becuz toronto is #notgood

 

[Anton Babchuk]

wiercioch is a fantastic player, by the way.

He's well above average in usage adjusted CF, CA, CF%, and points/60.

i don't care what your CORSI, says

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

i don't care what your CORSI, says

Corsi and Fenwick are very arbitrary. What is Wiercioch's WAR? (Wins Above Replacement)

Now *that* is an iron clad stat if there ever was one.

 

[nobuddy]

Corsi and Fenwick are very arbitrary. What is Wiercioch's WAR? (Wins Above Replacement)

Now *that* is an iron clad stat if there ever was one.

usage adjusted corsi is basically corsi above replacement if you compare it in a scale to every other player. ownthepuck.com did this and it's a fantastic tool.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

usage adjusted corsi is basically corsi above replacement if you compare it in a scale to every other player. ownthepuck.com did this and it's a fantastic tool.

I was being sarcastic, but thanks for nom nom noming the bait

 

[nobuddy]

I was being sarcastic, but thanks for nom nom noming the bait

i know you were. i was just offering another tool for anyone who may have been interested.

 

[What the Faulk]

wiercioch is a fantastic player, by the way.

He's well above average in usage adjusted CF, CA, CF%, and points/60.

His WOWY charts are pretty good too. Almost every defensive partner has seen their numbers rise with him. I have to think they'd look at him as a Sekera replacement, and not in a deal for Sekera. Seems like a decent stab given his salary.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

His salary should negate any thought about picking him up. The guy is making 2.7 million and he's 10th on the Senators' depth chart right now.

The only way it makes sense to grab him is if he's the "salary dump" portion of a deal that adds something a lot better.

 

[nobuddy]

His salary should negate any thought about picking him up. The guy is making 2.7 million and he's 10th on the Senators' depth chart right now.

The only way it makes sense to grab him is if he's the "salary dump" portion of a deal that adds something a lot better.

He is good though. That is the thing. He's definitely worth 2.7 million, whether Ottawa's management realizes that or not.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

His salary should negate any thought about picking him up. The guy is making 2.7 million and he's 10th on the Senators' depth chart right now.

The only way it makes sense to grab him is if he's the "salary dump" portion of a deal that adds something a lot better.

If Ottawa retained ~1m I'd take a flyer I think.

 

[GoldiFox]

Maybe this is the first indication of a moneypuck move from new Hurricanes consultant BSH_EricT.

 

[nobuddy]

this but "he drives play" instead of "he gets on base" i think is a good way to build a team

 

[Anton Babchuk]

while u post ur stats and ur movie clips, i have vague recollections of seeing wiercioch play.

again i'm right in my analysis