Bouboumaster
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Marc Bergevin's Masterpiece?
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Tatar trade quite easily. It's Tatar + Suzuki.
1. Tons of drama surrounding Pacioretty at the time, lowering his value (not so much because he causes drama, but because Habs were desperate, and trading from position of weakness)
2. On-ice Pacioretty had just had a really bad season too, and was due for a big contract. Paying someone big $$ after a bad year is always worrisome, and that was part of the trade as you have to get other team to commit to him high $$
3. We got Tatar, who wasn't so much a surprise (he was pretty good minus the one year), but who Habs correctly predicted would rebound after Vegas had given up on him
4. We got Suzuki. Fantastic player, with so much potential.
I'd argue in past 2 seasons Tatar > Pacioretty as a player. And Suzuki is still the most valuable piece in my opinion.
So yeah - I think that was his best trade.
Runner up - Vanek. I know this was just a rental, but based on all the hype surrounding him at the time of the TDL, i can't believe we got him for a 2nd round pick.
1. Tons of drama surrounding Pacioretty at the time, lowering his value (not so much because he causes drama, but because Habs were desperate, and trading from position of weakness)
2. On-ice Pacioretty had just had a really bad season too, and was due for a big contract. Paying someone big $$ after a bad year is always worrisome, and that was part of the trade as you have to get other team to commit to him high $$
3. We got Tatar, who wasn't so much a surprise (he was pretty good minus the one year), but who Habs correctly predicted would rebound after Vegas had given up on him
4. We got Suzuki. Fantastic player, with so much potential.
I'd argue in past 2 seasons Tatar > Pacioretty as a player. And Suzuki is still the most valuable piece in my opinion.
So yeah - I think that was his best trade.
Runner up - Vanek. I know this was just a rental, but based on all the hype surrounding him at the time of the TDL, i can't believe we got him for a 2nd round pick.
Bergevin's made a few nice trades but he doesn't have the proper vision to lead a team. He's equally made horrible moves to offset the good moves.
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I wish people would put a bit of effort into their threads when they decide to make them. At the very least you could put the information about what which players/picks were involved in each trade into the OP.
Bleeker
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Like what?
The only one i can think of is Shaw for 2 x 2nd but then he got back those picks by trading Eller
In my opinion he's one of the best GM when it comes to trades.
Tatar, Suzuki > Pacioretty
Domi > Galchenyuk
Petry > 2nd + 4th
Danault + 2nd (Romanov) > Weise
Weber > Subban
Drouin = Sergachev (Still too soon to really tell)
Got Armia and Byron for nothing
Even the smaller moves he did great. (Kulak, Weal, Scandella ..)
My only complaints would be the Radulov situation. He had to keep him and failed.
Also signing Karl Alzner to that ridiculous contract
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Bleeker
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Voted Danault's trade, considering we also got Romanov with the 2nd round pick.
All of that for Dale Weise lmao.
All of that for Dale Weise lmao.
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Maybe we can refer to them as IKEA Threads because we're expected to build them ourselves
That being said probably Tatar + Suzuki
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you don't have every intimate detail about le club de hockey Canadien memorized and tattooed on your chest? What a sad excuse for a hockey fan you are. 24 Stanley Cups, hater.
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Those are some good moves you listed, but you forgot the cap-crippling Carey Price contract extension.
Bleeker
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I agree that its leaning into that direction but Drouin still have the time to get his s*** together and become that 1st line winger he can be. The skills are there, no question about that
Bleeker
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Top dollars for one of the best goalie in the league i can live with that.
Its heavy but at least Price contributes to the (lets hope) success of this team in the near future
Paying almost 5M$ for a 7th D ...now that is dumb
BB06
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It's good that you can live with it, but it's still probably one of the worst contracts in the NHL. For starters, he is not "one of the best goalies in the league anymore." He hasn't been since 2017. He's middle of the pack if not bottom 1/3 of NHL starters. Considering he is already 32, his play is likely to stay at this level if not continue to go downhill.
7 more years of a 32 year old average goalie at $10.5 million is pretty rough..and will certainly become an issue once contract extensions for Tatar, Gallagher, Danault, Domi, etc are due over the next few years.
I'm not sure who you're referring to with your last sentence.
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I thought this was the title for his much-anticipated workout plan.
Bleeker
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I was referring to Alzner
and no, Price is not just a "middle of the pack" goalie who's regressing, i dont buy it.
He's still the toughest goalie to beat according to players around the league, and the voting wasn’t even close.
He sure had some rough moments but at the end of the day if i have to choose one goaltender to win, it would still be him.
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He was 32nd in save percentage among goalies with at least 20 starts this past season.
36th among all goalies in Quality Start Percentge.
36th in Goals Saved Above Average
He's definitely regressed to a league-average goalie. Three straight seasons of average to below average is enough of a sample size.
Gurglesons
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Masterpieces are a stupid way to view a team that has been anchor less since 2017 and is the least deserving team in the POs this year..
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I guess the Tatar trade was the best (HM to Domi) but overall he's a pretty bad GM.
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People are fixated on his use of the work masterpiece. What was his best work. No it’s not a masterpiece but it is his masterpiece.
I voted for danault.
HM for other would be dumping Shaw back on us in a foresighted move for two picks. Perhaps more a stroke of luck than genius.
I voted for danault.
HM for other would be dumping Shaw back on us in a foresighted move for two picks. Perhaps more a stroke of luck than genius.
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Tatar. I like more Tatar than Pacioretty (more heart and more talented). Suzuki is like a futur elite center 70-80 points with great two-way ability.
Domi trade is amazing too. Domi can put 60-70 points per season with great grit.
Domi trade is amazing too. Domi can put 60-70 points per season with great grit.
KevSkillz4
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Hmm... we don't lost big time lol. Sergachev is great offensively, but not a beast at defense zone. Before that injuries, Drouin show he can be a great player. Not every player step up at 18 years old. Huberdeau, Marchand put massive number at 25 years old and more (Marchand 28 years old).
