Marc Bergevin - Kickstart My Heart Edition
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Captain Mountain
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Because he wasn't? He was never consistently used on the top pair and never had 1st pair minutes.
You can literally make the same argument of Emelin.
Dude, we already had this debate and I proved you that it was Alzner that was the #1 LD on that team!
With Andrighetto, you guys already used the ''it's only been a couple games'' excuse last season, when he was immediately productive after being traded. You should probably move on to the ''he wouldn't be doing that here'' excuse permanently. He's just carrying on where he left off. Much like the habs are from their embarrassing playoff showing.
Captain Mountain
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I'm pretty sure you proved that you thought he was the #1LD on that team.
Yeah, well at least I proved something while you keep bashing the guy without any serious proofs...
Captain Mountain
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I'm pretty sure I offered up stats that tracked zone entries and exits, xGF%, shot heat maps, individual tracking stats, comments from Capital fans and the fact that he simply didn't cut it in the playoffs. While your proof was an appeal to the authority to a coach and a couple of stats that don't correlate to future success.
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Adam Michaels
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Lebrun was on Hockey 360 just a few moments ago talking about a governor's meeting held not long ago where Bettman gave the governors a very early preliminary report on next year's salary cap. While a lot of things can change until the official cap is released, Bettman reportedly told them the cap can go anywhere between 77M to 84M. It sounds like business is real good in the NHL these days.
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Alzner began the season as a 1LD, a line shuffle in the middle of the season took him away from Carlson to try to create two pairs that played around the same, but by the spring/playoffs he was a 7D that Washington did better the less he played.
Of course when you average that he looks like a first pair D, and not all players should be judged by how they end the season (people did that with Eric Staal in New York and that's why Minnesota got him so cheap), but Caps fans watched Alzner slowly deteriorate and play games he shouldn't have due to injury, and try to be an iron man, only to finish the year damaged goods that they no longer wanted. And Montreal signed those damaged goods like the Maple Leafs signed Komisarek in 2009. They paid for a reputation and not an actual product.
Of course when you average that he looks like a first pair D, and not all players should be judged by how they end the season (people did that with Eric Staal in New York and that's why Minnesota got him so cheap), but Caps fans watched Alzner slowly deteriorate and play games he shouldn't have due to injury, and try to be an iron man, only to finish the year damaged goods that they no longer wanted. And Montreal signed those damaged goods like the Maple Leafs signed Komisarek in 2009. They paid for a reputation and not an actual product.
OldCraig71
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Wow, so it is possible that next year we could have 15 million in unused cap space at the beginning of the 2018-19 season.
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OnceWasNot
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The real tell is how much the underlying numbers of Carlson and Niskanen improved when they played away from Alzner. The guy is an anchor who drags down his D partners and he seems to be doing the same with Petry now.
Nope.
Well one swipe at TT on French players.
Arrogance to the fan base. Thinks MB and management talk down and brush us off as just not being able to comprehend, so just accept.
Went on about Markov being left to walk.
Clear broadside, including Molson. Money grabbing etc.
Identified the media lap dogs.
Pitchforks are out.
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That's not what I said though.
Azlner was their #1 LD!
But here he's not even good enough to play in the top 4 apparently...
waffledave
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He wasn't and that'd be like trying to sell Emelin as a #1LD because he "played" next to Weber for a while.
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I much prefer this year start of the season than the last two when Habs burned the league and finally crashed (worst two seasons ago, of course...). these hot starts were like the tree hiding the forest. This year, the team can only improve. MB will have no choice.
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