Proposal: Leafs-Ducks

[29Potvin]

Rakell 50% and Terry for

1st, 3rd, Abramov/Hallander and Kivihalme/Topi Niemela

Similar value as the Muzzin trade as they both have same length on their contracts and i added Terry as some media has mentioned he maybe moved and the ducks are at the contract limit so i believe the trade would need contract for contract.

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[devils29]

honestly pretty fair value IMO. sure ill be roasted by both fan bases but as a neutral party i think it makes sense

 

[McDonald19]

Terry availability was a bad rumor. I don’t see a fit for him in Toronto regardless.

Simplify the trade to Rakell for 1st + prospect.

 

[MMC]

Nope, not enough coming back for those two

 

[29Potvin]

Terry availability was a bad rumor. I don’t see a fit for him in Toronto regardless.

Simplify the trade to Rakell for 1st + prospect.

Are we talking Amirov/Robertson, Lily/Sandin prospect or like prospect listed?

 

[Bloomberg]

I like Niemela, so I'd be hesitant to involve him in any trade. He hold more value to the Leafs than to outside organizations

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Rakell 50% and Terry for

1st, 3rd, Abramov/Hallander and Kivihalme/Topi Niemela

Similar value as the Muzzin trade as they both have same length on their contracts and i added Terry as some media has mentioned he maybe moved and the ducks are at the contract limit so i believe the trade would need contract for contract.

I think that’s in the ball park. Don’t ducks have to still take back a vessy or engvall for it to work?

make the 3rd a conditional 2nd round pick on Rakell production since most leaf fans think he is a dime a dozen/average overrated forward.

 

[29Potvin]

I think that’s in the ball park. Don’t ducks have to still take back a vessy or engvall for it to work?

make the 3rd a conditional 2nd round pick on Rakell production since most leaf fans think he is a dime a dozen/average overrated forward.

We can just waive Vessy if needed as the Ducks are at the contract limit so and the Leafs still have two open i believe. I feel Rakell would do well in the leafs top six and PP. I would only only make it a conditional 2022 (we have no third this year) if he went 30/30 next season.

 

[McDonald19]

Are we talking Amirov/Robertson, Lily/Sandin prospect or like prospect listed?

Probably on the higher end, I’ve seen Amirov’s name mentioned.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We can just waive Vessy if needed as the Ducks are at the contract limit so and the Leafs still have two open i believe. I feel Rakell would do well in the leafs top six and PP. I would only only make it a conditional 2022 (we have no third this year) if he went 30/30 next season.

Oh I meant cap wise can leafs fit him in this year as is? Well I guess at 50%
I’m cool with the 30/30 condition I think he’d hit that fairly easily pending injuryb

 

[McJedi]

Rakell 50% and Terry for

1st, 3rd, Abramov/Hallander and Kivihalme/Topi Niemela

Similar value as the Muzzin trade as they both have same length on their contracts and i added Terry as some media has mentioned he maybe moved and the ducks are at the contract limit so i believe the trade would need contract for contract.

Not enough. Change prospect to Sandin.

 

[AvroArrow]

I really like Rakell's game, value seems pretty close. Not sure how ducks fans feel. I know people were mentioning Amirov/Sandin in another thread, he just isn't worth that + a 1st IMO.

 

[dracom]

not interested in the Leafs replaceable prospects for Rakell especially when we're retaining 50%

 

[EK392000]

I like Niemela, so I'd be hesitant to involve him in any trade. He hold more value to the Leafs than to outside organizations

I watched some clips of Niemela and I saw him screening a goalie in the offensive zone. AS A D MAN. It was funny to see LOL

 

[patriotfan]

Rakell 50% and Terry for

1st, 3rd, Abramov/Hallander and Kivihalme/Topi Niemela

Similar value as the Muzzin trade as they both have same length on their contracts and i added Terry as some media has mentioned he maybe moved and the ducks are at the contract limit so i believe the trade would need contract for contract.

yes i would do that but its not happening for cap reasons where is the money going out to fit those players in the lineup, has to money in money out as they have 0 space availabe, dubasssss ceated this mess and now he is stuck, and he is going to trade all our future for a quick fix just as previous boneheads did in toronto and the slide continues.......

 

[Leonardo87]

Guarantees in Life: Death, Taxes, and a Ducks and Toronto trade thread once a week.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Weak quantity over quality offer for Rakell (especially with 50% retention), and then Anaheim adds in a cheap winger with upside for free? No dice.

Take out Terry, that rumor made no sense and has since been refuted. The Ducks need to collect more young NHL ready players with upside, not give them away.

A late first is a pretty weak centerpiece for Rakell, nothing there that will set you apart from the other half dozen or more playoff bound teams that would likely be happy to give up a 1st, especially if you are asking for 50% retention.

If your first is the best piece offered, I'd highly doubt your offer is the most attractive on the table. Amirov might get a conversation started.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Guarantees in Life: Death, Taxes, and a Ducks and Toronto trade thread once a week.

It’s once a day the last week or so lol

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I really like Rakell's game, value seems pretty close. Not sure how ducks fans feel. I know people were mentioning Amirov/Sandin in another thread, he just isn't worth that + a 1st IMO.

I think the problem is from my perspective there is a pretty large gap between robertson/Sandin and amirov/liljegren

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Rakell at 50% for Amirov + 2nd (becomes a 1st if Rakell scores at a .75 PPG or higher)

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Rakell at 50% for 1st + Amirov + a conditional 2nd round pick that Anaheim receives if Rakell scores 60 points next year

I feel like your leaf fans are going to have a meltdown reading that, easy yes from Anaheim

let me balance it out

Rakell at 50%
For
Amirov
2021 2nd
2022 3rd (conditional 2nd if Rakell hits 60 points)

 

[Gliff]

Rakell at 50% for 1st + Amirov + a conditional 2nd round pick that Anaheim receives if Rakell scores 60 points next year

I dont think I have ever seen a condition based on production from a skater. They are often based on team success or games played from the player right?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I feel like your leaf fans are going to have a meltdown reading that, easy yes from Anaheim

let me balance it out

What if we combined it?

Rakell at 50% for Amirov + 2nd (becomes a 1st if Rakell scores at a .75 PPG or higher)

Rakell will likely get that mark so it's most likely Amriov + 1st which is a good return for the Ducks. If Rakell busts the Leafs minimize the amount they paid for him and they keep their first.

Seems like a solid deal from a neutral perspective.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I dont think I have ever seen a condition based on production from a skater. They are often based on team success or games played from the player right?

There were conditional picks attached to Neal's production, its happened before

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What if we combined it?

Rakell at 50% for Amirov + 2nd (becomes a 1st if Rakell scores at a .75 PPG or higher)

Rakell will likely get that mark so it's most likely Amriov + 1st which is a good return for the Ducks. If Rakell busts the Leafs minimize the amount they paid for him and they keep their first.

Seems like a solid deal from a neutral perspective.

I think it’s pretty good.

leaf fans in the other 3 threads should be comfortable Rakell won’t hit .75 cause he’s a dime a dozen, overrated, 40 point player who is on a decline at least that’s what I’ve heard