Prospect Info: Leafs 2017 4th Rd (Via PIT) Vladislav Kara - 6'2" 187lbs LW\C - Irbis Kazan (MHL)

[ChrisCall]

dumb pick. they over scouted this one. Shvyryov the following pick is miles better.

I'm not going to jump that far. The Leafs clearly have a network for Russian players right now and i would take the length of conversation at the table to suggest 'well scouted', not necessarily 'over scouted. It could be dumb, i can't refute that, but i can't refute it could be smart. He's completely off board and i'm just curious if there's anyone out there with a clue to add here for us. I'm looking forward to seeing what Hunter (and co) say in the interviews about him. Will just have to see.

 

[Christ]

dumb pick. they over scouted this one. Shvyryov the following pick is miles better.

Sweet, someone who actually knows this player. I mean, to make such a statement you must have seen him play, tell us about him as I thin that most of us are totally in the dark on this pick. First off is he a center or a winger?

 

[Borschevsky]

He is pretty physical winger, got a very good shot... but yeah, Toronto scouts are geniuses if there is a NHL potential

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[RoadWarrior]

Sweet, someone who actually knows this player. I mean, to make such a statement you must have seen him play, tell us about him as I thin that most of us are totally in the dark on this pick. First off is he a center or a winger?

overager who can't score in Russia........... yeah awesome

This is the same as their Middleton pick from last year... bizarre wasted pick.

 

[Critical13]

I know nothing about either but do have 1 question:

How many times have you seen both play?

He hasn't but he's read at least 3 prospect lists on the main board!

 

[NoTouchIcing]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59dkcd_vladislav-kara-hattrick-vs-barsy_sport

Those goals were all awesome, so different.

 

[Menzinger]

I think he's also played a bit of centre too?

Leafs seem to have done well in Russsia as of late, so fingers crossed that continues

 

[kihei]

overager who can't score in Russia........... yeah awesome

This is the same as their Middleton pick from last year... bizarre wasted pick.

In other words, you are no more familiar with this pick than anybody else on here.

 

[Mr Hockey]

dumb pick. they over scouted this one. Shvyryov the following pick is miles better.

I think we will trust the 15 pro-hockey men sitting around the Leafs draft table on this decision.... and again

 

[Walshy7]

In other words, you are no more familiar with this pick than anybody else on here.

guy complained about every single pick, i bet he has seen none of them.

 

[Mess]

Gotta admit when Leafs make this pick I said ..

WHO ???

Never heard of him.

 

[Menzinger]

Apparently didn't even have a hockeydb page pre draft

 

[Walshy7]

Apparently didn't even have a hockeydb page pre draft

he had mono for 17 years

 

[Silent Knight]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5fhp7a_vladislav-kara-goal-vs-medvedi_sport

 

[RoadWarrior]

guy complained about every single pick, i bet he has seen none of them.

Liljegren, Rasanen, Scott and O'Connell were good picks.

That's not complaining about every pick.

Kara, Guseev and McGregor were basically random thoughtless choices when you had skilled guys like Chmelevski, Elvenes, Markus Phillips, Safin, Shvyrov on the board.

 

[moon111]

This is about the best thing I can find about him.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/league_all-time_stats.php?league=Slovakia U18 2&alltime=PPG
But the entire league doesn't seem like a traditional source of anything. Seems like he might have sweet hands in the video?

 

[RoadWarrior]

This is about the best thing I can find about him.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/league_all-time_stats.php?league=Slovakia U18 2&alltime=PPG
But the entire league doesn't seem like a traditional source of anything. Seems like he might have sweet hands in the video?

That's equivalent to Bantam in NA. Not very meaningful.

 

[Walshy7]

Liljegren, Rasanen, Scott and O'Connell were good picks.

That's not complaining about every pick.

Kara, Guseev and McGregor were basically random thoughtless choices when you had skilled guys like Chmelevski, Elvenes, Markus Phillips, Safin, Shvyrov on the board.

ok i apologize then, i am going from thread to thread must have only seen you in those threads

 

[cipher]

Liljegren, Rasanen, Scott and O'Connell were good picks.

That's not complaining about every pick.

Kara, Guseev and McGregor were basically random thoughtless choices when you had skilled guys like Chmelevski, Elvenes, Markus Phillips, Safin, Shvyrov on the board.

Don't meant to be harsh, but my prediction is you know less than .01% about the players available, and especially those we've picked, compared to the Leafs scouting network.

 

[Mess]

Hunter must know something here like he is projected to be drafted in this years CHL Euro import draft and perhaps be playing in the CHL next year.

This guy seems like a 7th round pick to me, as he wasn't on any scouting report or ranking that I've seen on him.

Wonder what Hunter saw that made him a 4th round pick after being passed over last year undrafted?.

 

[bobermay]

Definately the most intriguing pick to me. It sounds like he has the tools, but does he have the toolbox?

 

[Walshy7]

hunter called him a winger, not we'll see just falt out winger so add him to our LW pool which is also shallow-ish

 

[Caser]

 

[Hoverhand]

I think we will trust the 15 pro-hockey men sitting around the Leafs draft table on this decision.... and again

You're assuming all 15 were unanimous in picking Kara.

How many picks do you think the Leafs have taken where the majority of our scouting department disagrees with Hunter but he has the final say, a few?
Hunter is a very intelligent hockey mind but there were other very intelligent hockey minds that would've taken Shyryvov, Chemelevski, or Minulin there.

My point is, this "But theyre the experts" schtick gets tiring.

 

[Bloomberg]

Does he have a shot at making the World Juniors team for Russia this year?