LOL Chabot and meh for two of our top players?
ROR with 1 yr til UFA returned a substantial package. Duchene (stop with the Duchesne nonsense) will return a heftier package than that if traded.
Duchene for Chabot and a 1st is a realistic starting point value wise. Avs don't have to trade Duchene. If Ottawa wants him badly enough they will pay the price Sakic sets.
This isn't about fair value. If Duchene is moved, he'll be more than guaranteed to be best player in the deal, doesn't mean Avs will trade him for peanuts.
meh?
- 1rst round pick 2018 : I didn't know that 1st round picks were now considered "meh" on HF
- roster player (not named EK65, Stone, Hoffman) : he only specified "not those 3" so that means it could be Turris, Dzingel, Brassard, Smith, Ceci, Pageau, etc
- another good prospect (not named White, Brown) : so it could be Dahlen, Chlapik, Perron, Englund, Jaros, Paul, Hogberg...
- he also maybe other picks : it's vague so it could be anything
Not saying I would be doing that deal but the package that poster was talking about could be :
Turris + Chabot + 1st + Dahlen
for
Duchene/Landeskog + Barrie/Johnson
Personally, I wouldn't do it. Chabot + 1st + Dahlen is a tough pill to give up and it means by acquiring Barrie or Johnson that Methot and Ceci would both be exposed to the expansion draft. So a slight upgrade on Turris and load up on defense just for the rest of the season would cost 3 important young assets for a budget team.
Ottawa doesn't need Duchene "badly". You have totally the right to keep him and I think the Avs should. He is still young enough
the assets to land landeskog without decimating their future?[/QUOTE]
Ottawa is a budget team. Assets like Dzingel, Pageau, Ceci, Chabot, White, Brown, 1st, Dahlen, etc are VERY valuable to them.
I'd rather do another Phaneuf type of trade (trade smaller assets, take cap hit back, offset it by throwing away undesired salary) and upgrade the team this way.
That said. Chabot is their only good D prospect and the Avs will absolutely demand him so I doubt that something happens.
They will probably go for a rental.
Jaros, Englund, Claesson, Wolanin, Lajoie, Harpur are other good/decent prospects in the Sens org. Particularly Jaros, as I think he will be excellent. But Chabot is the only blue chip D prospect and until we have no idea what will happen with the expansion draft, the Sens won't move him IMO.
This thing has run it's course... now we're just going in circles. We'll see what happens but don't be too surprised if Landy isn't a sen and Ceci doesn't yield you a top 6 forward.
I am not desperately here waiting that Landeskog becomes a Senator
If he wasn't Swedish (I have a big bias for Swedish players), I don't think I'd be really interested to be honest. Not the type of forward the Sens need.
Ceci is so, so good he will be traded away so that the team can protect Methot in the draft.
Let's repeat for people who need more explanation to understand. Methot is from the Ottawa area (like Ceci) but he is Karlsson's partner AND best friend. He is also very good at this thing we call hockey.
If they keep Ceci, it means that they lose Methot FOR NOTHING. If they trade Ceci, they can use him as an asset to upgrade the roster somewhere else.
If there wasn't that stupid expansion draft, I would NEVER look at trading Ceci and for all that we know, maybe it's not even in Ottawa's plans. It's my own speculation, me a random fan on the internet...
Do you get it now?
