Confirmed Trade: [LA/WSH] Tom Gilbert to Washington for a conditional fifth-round pick in 2017.

[ChuckLefley]

The bigger joke is this post. Did you just start watching hockey? Trades like this have taken place for many years, even predating the salary cap.

I like how you insult me, that really adds to your argument.

Please provide a list of deals where a player ended up being traded for nothing.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

I like how you insult me, that really adds to your argument.

Please provide a list of deals where a player ended up being traded for nothing.

Every future considerations deal ever? You know Dubnyk was traded from NSH to MTL for future considerations a few years back?

 

[Ciao]

Peter Holland to Arizona for a conditional seventh-round pick, or nothing at all if the condition isn't met.

But, the Leafs didn't retain salary.

 

[Bandit]

I like how you insult me, that really adds to your argument.

Please provide a list of deals where a player ended up being traded for nothing.

Kris Draper was traded for a dollar.

 

[37Bergenov14]

I like how you insult me, that really adds to your argument.

Please provide a list of deals where a player ended up being traded for nothing.

Dane fox
Corey potter
Devan dubynk
Jeff drouin-deslauriers
Patrick killeen
Yuri alexandrov
Petr kalus

...shall I go on...?

 

[rynryn]

man i feel sort of sorry for him. he would have stuck with the Wild had backstrom been healthy enough to get rid of during amnesty buyouts.

 

[ChuckLefley]

Every future considerations deal ever? You know Dubnyk was traded from NSH to MTL for future considerations a few years back?

Every future considerations deal ever ended up with one team giving nothing for the player?

 

[uncleben]

Peter Holland to Arizona for a conditional seventh-round pick, or nothing at all if the condition isn't met.

But, the Leafs didn't retain salary.

Ahem, that's a 6th round pick..!

 

[H a w k s*]

Washington with the fleece. Was with at least a 1st and ehh prospect.

 

[uncleben]

Every future considerations deal ever ended up with one team giving nothing for the player?

Not all, but most.
At least tangibly speaking.
We may never know what goes on in GM phone calls.

"Remember that futures deal we made last year? Toss in a 7th/retain 10% of this player's salary in this new deal and we'll call it even."
(Like the Vrbata/Fairchild trade below.)

Who knows.

But as it goes, must future considerations turn into nothing tangible or explicit.


Some examples where it did though:
July 17, 2009 - Washington traded Keith Seabrook to Calgary for f.c. - Washington was later rewarded 2012 seventh round pick (#195-Christian Djoos)

December 12, 2005 - Carolina traded Radim Vrbata to Chicago for f.c. - Carolina was later 2007 fourth round pick (#96-Cade Fairchild), which was tacked onto the later trade of Babchuk for Richmond + 4th

June 25th, 2002 - Vancouver traded Ryan Bonni to Toronto for f.c. - Vancouver later rewarded 2003 eighth round pick (#252-Sergei Topol)

February 21, 2001 - Los Angeles traded Rob Blake and Steven Reinprecht to Colorado for Adam Deadmarsh, Aaron Miller, 2001 first round pick (#30-David Steckel) and f.c - Los Angeles was later rewarded Jared Aulin and 2003 first round pick (#26-Brian Boyle)

Various expansion draft agreements - the trade would be described as something like, "Columbus agrees not to select Dominik Hasek", but formally with the league, Buffalo received "future considerations".





There are more trades though were it does not turn into anything...
Adam Cracknell for f.c.
Kevin Poulin for f.c.
Nick Boynton for f.c.
Gus Mortson for f.c.
etc.

And going beyond future considerations, tonnes of trades with conditional picks that never convert, such that one team effectively got nothing:
Josh Green for conditional 4th (not converted)
Carter Ashton and David Broll for conditional 7th (not converted)
2016 3rd for Jimmy Vesey (left as UFA before signing)

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I honestly didn't even realize Gilbert was still an NHL player until today

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

I like how you insult me, that really adds to your argument.

Please provide a list of deals where a player ended up being traded for nothing.

Larry Murphy - hall of famer. Traded by Maple Leafs in 97 to the Wings for nothing except the Wings taking on his salary.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/could-dion-phaneuf-become-the-next-larry-murphy

Oh wait.. the Wings sent a bottle of wine too.

 

[leaflover]

You never know, if they go deep enough Gilbert could come into play.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

I honestly didn't even realize Gilbert was still an NHL player until today

are you guys realizing though that Brian Campbell isn't an NHL player either?

in all seriousness, Gilbert is technically not an NHL player

 

[Yog S'loth]

Every future considerations deal ever ended up with one team giving nothing for the player?

I feel like this guy started following hockey yesterday. Like, around lunchtime.

 

[David Dennison]

I honestly didn't even realize Gilbert was still an NHL player until today

Haha me too. I remembered him on Edmonton, but didnt realize that he has bounced around so much since then.

 

[GKJ]

Dean Lombardi is really hilarious managing the salary cap. He's always sending one-way contracts to the minors, then is hustling to dump some, but last year they had that ridiculous Scuderi trade, and now this with a guy they didn't even need who was paid way too much. It is truly something that he has managed to win two Stanley Cups, because he has done very little to demonstrate he knows how to operate a roster under a salary cap.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Every future considerations deal ever ended up with one team giving nothing for the player?

No but there are plenty.

Hell even a few years ago the Kings got a servicable Freddy Modin for nothing. The 'condition' on the IB elieve 7th round pick was the Kings had to make the cup finals

 

[kenfury]

Kris Draper was traded for a dollar.

As was 350 goal scorer Ray Sheppard.

 

[Suds]

My thought is - what's got them worried?

If all else fails....put this guy in....

What/who are they worried about?

 

[Gurglesons]

Is this going to be Washington's Mike Weber in the playoffs when Trotz decides to play him over a young guy because he has experience and then Hornqvist puts in a goal off his misplay to make a series 3 -1?

 

[Human]

Here's hoping he's this year's Mike Weber for the Caps if they play the Pens in the playoffs.

 

[The Great Weal]

You never know, if they go deep enough Gilbert could come into play.

You have a greater chance of losing if you play Gilbert in the playoffs. I'm positive he was on the ice for 90% of Tampa goals against Montreal.

 

[Jumptheshark]

So many viewers in this thread. Y'all thirsty.

that time of the year

 

[Tender Rip]

Washington are ALL IN!