My immediate thoughts were Chicago and San Jose where he can easily scoop up some top six minutes. KK's not bad defensively, but I think Buffalo should target someone more experienced and better defensivelyBuffalo waves hello. Might be a really nice 3C for us. We'd even give you something for him. Need a RHD? We'll give you Jokiharju.
Pass on paying graves 4.5 million for another 5 years.
Even though kk is over paid, he is overpaid for a more valuable position and can be bought out for 1/3 price if need be. The cost of a 1/3 buyout and a mid range 3LD will be cheaper than graves at 4.5 million
Buffalo waves hello. Might be a really nice 3C for us. We'd even give you something for him. Need a RHD? We'll give you Jokiharju.
Can they buy him out at any point of the contract under these terms?Pass on paying graves 4.5 million for another 5 years.
Even though kk is over paid, he is overpaid for a more valuable position and can be bought out for 1/3 price if need be. The cost of a 1/3 buyout and a mid range 3LD will be cheaper than graves at 4.5 million
Before the age of 26.Can they buy him out at any point of the contract under these terms?
Can they buy him out at any point of the contract under these terms?
Before the age of 26.
Hi agree - his poor skating is inexcusable. Other high-end pick players like Spezza and Mark Stone came into the league as really poor skaters and improved significantly to where it was not an issue.KK has still not figured out that he has to work nonstop thru his summers with skating coaches if he ever wants to be a good nhl player. Also takes forever for him to get of that cannon of a wrister he has, I can shout "Shoot!" 2-3 times before KK finally lets it go and the goalie is set or the screen is gone or the shot is blocked.
I'm in the minority that would do that swap with Canes fans, but the OP's proposal is a non starter.Buffalo waves hello. Might be a really nice 3C for us. We'd even give you something for him. Need a RHD? We'll give you Jokiharju.
When he came to the Canes he couldn’t handle any body contact without falling over. He’s a strong skater now, and actually wins board battles. His skating has improved significantly. He’s never going to be fast but he’s absolutely improved his strength and balance.Hi agree - his poor skating is inexcusable. Other high-end pick players like Spezza and Mark Stone came into the league as really poor skaters and improved significantly to where it was not an issue.
He’s a bad skater. Well below NHL average. It has held him back.When he came to the Canes he couldn’t handle any body contact without falling over. He’s a strong skater now, and actually wins board battles. His skating has improved significantly. He’s never going to be fast but he’s absolutely improved his strength and balance.
Isn't Jarry a great starter? They could do way better than Kotka for him
What's hilarious was the posters who were full of "haha, Habs got screwed".
Now the discussion is if KK can be bought out.
He was a mistake when we drafted him, he was a mistake when he was OS, he will be a mistake for anyone trading for him.
Kk should consider going to Europe and disappearing from NHL discussions.
It is not his strong suit for sure, but having watch him improve it over the last couple of years, it is no longer what holds him back. His shot delay is killing him. As already alluded to above, the time it takes for him to get the shot off is sub-standard and lets the defense/goalie get into position which usually dramatically lowers his chances.He’s a bad skater. Well below NHL average. It has held him back.
Most of the pro offer sheet crowd acknowledged the cheap buyout and most accounted for it as a reason to do the offer sheet. So i think we have some misconstrued facts here.What's hilarious was the posters who were full of "haha, Habs got screwed".
Now the discussion is if KK can be bought out.
He was a mistake when we drafted him, he was a mistake when he was OS, he will be a mistake for anyone trading for him.
Kk should consider going to Europe and disappearing from NHL discussions.
The offer sheet was for 1 year with an RFA expiration. I don't recall much talk about the contract he was going to then sign being reasonably buyoutable (the rest of your post I agree with).Most of the pro offer sheet crowd acknowledged the cheap buyout and most accounted for it as a reason to do the offer sheet. So i think we have some misconstrued facts here.
The reasons for the offer sheet:
1. If he lived up to his comps, its a steal
2. If he was just a 3c, the long term salary would play out
3. Canes had 3 off seasons to see it play out to buy him out at 1/3 salary.
Those were the reasons. He has played 200 games with us. our 1st and 3rd had a very low chance of playing that in the league.
In fairness the rumor of an 8 year extension discussion was out at the time of the offer sheet. So the discussions were had.The offer sheet was for 1 year with an RFA expiration. I don't recall much talk about the contract he was going to then sign being reasonably buyoutable (the rest of your post I agree with).
Let me be the first to say if Dubas acquired a player with KK's production and contract, OP would be ripping him a new ahole.
We'll take Pono back if you want Koko. Not taking any $ back from the Pens.
Nothing creative about dumping a bust for a bigger bust.Nah. Creative move. The thing Dubas doesn't do.