Confirmed with Link: Kotkaniemi Offer Sheet

[Lempo]

A contract is an agreement in which consideration is received by both parties. In the case of an offer sheet. It is an “option” type contract. Both parties are (canes and JK) are bound by the terms and conditions of the offer sheet unless Montreal picks up the Option.
As a retired Contracting Officer, yes I’m going to go Contract Law on this.

But they or very least the team have previously limited their contracting competence by contracting themselves into the NHL legal framework, where the only existing allowed form of contract between the team and the players is SPC, and by CBA the SPC will be finalized only after the offersheet procedure is over.

The parties have done Actions that are defined in the CBA, which Actions will have the legal consequences to which the team has previously contracted itself with the League. But according to the NHL legal framework they are not currently under a contract with each other.

 

[Chrispy]

Apparently someone posted a tweet that they matched then removed it

What this means? Someone posted a tweet and removed it..

Your Welcome

Yeah, I don’t think this means more than TVA had a tweet ready and somebody made a mistake in posting it.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Would be really happy if Canes get him. Could be a huge steal for the team especially in the long run. Have a big feeling he’d do great here.

But regardless of what happened I think the Canes played this absolutely perfectly. Very little risk and a perfect offer sheet

Looking forward to finding out today

I don’t think it’s a huge risk, but I wouldn’t classify it as “very little”. For example.

1. Canes could miss the playoffs and give up a potential lottery pick.
2. Kotkaniemi could perform no better than he did in MTL and we are wasting $6m in cap space.
3. This is a team that has Stanley cup aspirations and will for the next 3 years while Aho, Pesce and TT are under contract. If Kotkaniemi doesn’t help the team vs spending the $6M elsewhere, it potentially wastes a year.
4. If a reasonable extension isn’t worked out, they risk either having to overpay Kotkaniemi next year or lose him to free agency.
5. Spending this much on Kotkaniemi, even if it’s an offer sheet, night make discussions with Necas more difficult.
6. Rod may not use Kotkaniemi any more than MTL did and he’d be unhappy.

again, I don’t think this move is a big risk, but there is some risk.

there’s upside to the move as well, particularly if Kotkaniemi signs a reasonable extension, takes a step forward in his game and becomes a long term 2c .

 

[Lempo]

I HAVE AN AXE. SAID AXE HAS A MASS. IF I GET MORE AXES, I HAVE SEVERAL MASSES GIVING ME THE MANDATE.

The Afghanistan School of State Theory.

 

[mikeyfan]

So this thought just came to mind. Our team was linked to Tarasenko, but getting him would require giving up one or more of Rees, Jarvis, Suzuki, Drury, etc.

Here we're giving up a 1st but keeping our prospects. Also getting a much younger player.

We could still trade for Tank, nothing says the Canes are through dealing.

 

[mikeyfan]

No matter how this turns out the NHL and their television partners would be really remiss if the Hurricanes vs Montreal game on October 21st is not nationally televised

 

[MinJaBen]

We could still trade for Tank, nothing says the Canes are through dealing.

Finding the cap space says we likely won’t if the Habs don’t match.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Finding the cap space says we likely won’t if the Habs don’t match.

Unless, of course, Nino is the return for Tarasenko. Svech/Aho/Turbo, Tank/Troch/Necas, KK/Jordo/Fast would be super-ridiculous.

 

[mikeyfan]

Finding the cap space says we likely won’t if the Habs don’t match.

The trade would probably go something like Nino, Gardiner (who will go on LTIR for ST. Louis) Rees and a late round pick for tank. Or.
Nino, Rees, Tieksola, and a late round pick for tank and a million to million and a half retained

either way they could only do it by trading Nino. But I’m not sure St Louis wants to take a contract back.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The trade would probably go something like Nino, Gardiner (who will go on LTIR for ST. Louis) Rees and a late round pick for tank. Or.
Nino, Rees, Tieksola, and a late round pick for tank and a million to million and a half retained

either way they could only do it by trading Nino. But I’m not sure St Louis wants to take a contract back.

I don't think that St. Louis would consider Nino a "contract". He's a good player that would actually add something to the Blues.

 

[MinJaBen]

The translation is just speculation about why the original was tweeted and deleted, but it shows the original so I thought I’d share.

 

[Tryamw]

Yeah, I don’t think this means more than TVA had a tweet ready and somebody made a mistake in posting it.

SHH!!!! Spoiling my glee. why can't you let me have nice things..

 

[Svechhammer]

One of the Habs posters was already in mid meltdown on the trade board before the tweet was deleted.

I'm thinking the rest of the day is going to be entertaining regardless of what happens.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

One of the Habs posters was already in mid meltdown on the trade board before the tweet was deleted.

I'm thinking the rest of the day is going to be entertaining regardless of what happens.

I am not risking a visit there. Not gonna push my luck after I managed to get through the initial GD discussion without a warning.

 

[DougieSmash]

Sadly, they will match this

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Sadly, they will match this

I honestly don't give a shit either way. I do want KK, though.

 

[DougieSmash]

I honestly don't give a shit either way. I do want KK, though.

I care cause I like Kotka a lot

 

[WreckingCrew]

Only reason I kinda want them to NOT match is just bc of the slight chance he turns into a 60pt player on Aho's wing and the absolute shit-show meltdown that would occur with Habs fans!

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

If Montreal matches I would love for the Canes to put up a post with JK's picture saying "See you next year." The meltdown would be delicious.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

Young Satan would have a nice ring to it.

IT'S ALSO AN ALLITERATION

You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw an axe at you!

'TIS NOT BECAUSE SHE THREW IT AT ME. 'TIS BECAUSE I CAUGHT IT.

The Afghanistan School of State Theory.

THIS SCHOOL OF THOUGHT PREDATES THE TALIBAN BY A MARGIN OF CENTURIES.

 

[Walrus26]

I care cause I like Kotka a lot

A view from the other side, in good faith:

We like aspects of KK too, some of us more than others.
He is definitely a gamer and who doesn't like a big boy C?

MTL has rushed him no doubt, but he is still far from being a 6 million player.... quite a long way. If he figures out a way to take a big step forward on his skates and his release speed, I reckon he will pan out as that physical 2C people want him to be.

It's by no means a given. If Bergevin can do a sensible deal for Dvorak, who right now is clearly a better player at a lower cap hit, KK is yours and good luck to him for getting paid.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

One of the Habs posters was already in mid meltdown on the trade board before the tweet was deleted.

I'm thinking the rest of the day is going to be entertaining regardless of what happens.

Montreal fans have got to be the most entertaining fans in the league.

 

[Socks]

One of the Habs posters was already in mid meltdown on the trade board before the tweet was deleted.

I'm thinking the rest of the day is going to be entertaining regardless of what happens.

Are Habs fans not typically in a perpetual state of meltdown? See the infamous (and sadly long-gone) “Darkest Day in Habs History” thread for proof.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

If Montreal matches I would love for the Canes to put up a post with JK's picture saying "See you next year." The meltdown would be delicious.

We'd be moved to Quebec for tampering

 

[Wolfpuck]

There are a decent amount of Habs fans who still don't seem to understand that the Canes actually want Kotkaniemi (hence trying to trade for him before the offer sheet), and that trolling the Habs is just the cherry on top and not even close to being the primary motivation.