Value of: Konecny to Minnesota
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Jerzey Devil
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Think those asks are too much. Maybe not Rossi but an extension would have to be worked out for Konecny
Rentals routinely get moved for a first plus with top guys like to getting a young roster player as well. Minnie has the assets to get it done with two pieces but he absolutely commands that kind of value.
No he wouldn’t. Fiala who wasn’t a rental got a 1st and b prospect at that time. He’s not better than fiala. Wild aren’t giving up any top prospects in any trade. Our gm hasn’t even given up a 1st ever. They can just sign a winger for 1-2 years which is the plan
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Rossi + Haight + 2nd. 13+ prospect or something. I don’t think the Flyers will trade him, but if they did I would be looking at the Fiala trade as a comp. Flyers certainly aren’t getting 13 + another 1
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At one yr left, he will get a 2st+ but not 2 1st outright. Onr could be s 2,nd to 1st t if team won cup
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2 years away from being 2 years away
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Fiala deal was 19 + a former 2nd round pick many valued as a mid-late first. I don’t see the reason to throw Heidt in.
He was a rental , he needed a deal. He had no contract. UFA or RFA makes no difference to the acquiring team. They had to pay him and he had to agree to stay.
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A player that you trade for during the season after having had evaluated your roster needs knowing he is likely to walk is a rental. If you trade for a player during the offseason, it’s by and large with the idea that they can fit long term.
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There’s thoughts around the Philly that TK already has an extension waiting for his name on it.
It’s going to take a massive overpayment for Briere to consider trading him, I’d imagine.
It’s going to take a massive overpayment for Briere to consider trading him, I’d imagine.
I think he's trying to work around when the other guy said no Russian yurov could approximate the stone deal or kusneysov the fiala deal but I doubt anyone outside of Minnesota has a grasp on thier pool well enough to find value that fits what both teams would find interesting
For a guy who averages in points equals Slaf's this year? No thanks.
I trust Hughes to draft two players that will produce more. Plus Mesar and Slaf are very close and I'm not sure I'd ship Mesar away without seeing how that friendship looks on ice.
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Fiala is a pretty good trade comp. 1st+Lambos/Khusnutdinov/Hunt/Peart/etc. Something like that. It's fun for fans to say "if you want Konecny it takes Yurov+ or two 1sts", but that's just fans being fans, there's nothing about that that's rooted in reality.
They're either going to extend him or it's going to come down to trading him for a 1st+B piece. That's how it works with guys who have one year left until UFA.
Yes, this is what happened with Fiala, and he got a 1st and a B prospect. There's no reason Konecny would get significantly more.
They're either going to extend him or it's going to come down to trading him for a 1st+B piece. That's how it works with guys who have one year left until UFA.
Yes, this is what happened with Fiala, and he got a 1st and a B prospect. There's no reason Konecny would get significantly more.
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Just because it could, doesn't mean that it is. When you make the deal, no one's stopping you from trading the player again, or signing them. And we also hear about teams who don't move players and become 'own rentals' which by the very definition of both words, is impossible to exist, but does some people in media are lazy and wanted a new buzzword, doing so because it's decisions ultimately made in the moments that they have to be.
For the 2024 draft, 5 1st round picks were traded for players whose rights expired the following July 1, 2 were traded for players who would be or were RFA (one of which was acquired for a deadline rental), 1 was traded a player who had multiple years on his contract, 1 more was conditional for a similar player, by a team who was not making the playoffs last year and knew it, based on the team performance this year (didn't make the playoffs either). 1 last one was also conditional based on how other conditions played out and was used as a one-year salary dump by a team who did not make the playoffs last year or this year, and has no conditions to next year, while acquiring another one from another team. Half (and for singular reasons, a plurality), were traded for pure trade deadline rentals, and half were made under various other circumstances.
The point is every draft pick is valued differently based on how a GM identifies their needs, whether it's their own pick, or someone else's, at a given time. The costs are the costs, the decisions are the decisions, and the reasons are the reasons.
