KHL Expansion Part IX
- Thread starter Caser
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Finally! All that about their arena wasn't fair when Vityaz were playing in their tiny one, plus the whole situation with Kunlun not ever actually being in China!
Plus, there were rumours at the beginning that Lada would be a team to replace Riga/Jokerit etc but their GM stated the funding for the VHL had already been confirmed, so it seemed unlikely to be this time around.
Коньков — о «Ладе» в КХЛ: Тольятти — хоккейный город, многие ребята оттуда поиграли в НХЛ
Коньков — о «Ладе» в КХЛ: Тольятти — хоккейный город, многие ребята оттуда поиграли в НХЛ
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""Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the Governor of the Samara Region Dmitry Azarov instructed the Ministry of Sports to work out the issue of returning Lada to the KHL.""
Sounds promising
alko
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Коньков — о «Ладе» в КХЛ: Тольятти — хоккейный город, многие ребята оттуда поиграли в НХЛ
Коньков — о «Ладе» в КХЛ: Тольятти — хоккейный город, многие ребята оттуда поиграли в НХЛ
""Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the Governor of the Samara Region Dmitry Azarov instructed the Ministry of Sports to work out the issue of returning Lada to the KHL.""
Sounds promising
That means, they have no choice. They must step into KHL again.
But it is sure, Lada will be now a bestseller in Russia.
Caser
@RUSProspects
Lada has officially applied to get back to the KHL, but the league wants to receive financial guarantees for at least three seasons first, also a roadmap on potential changes that need to be implemented for the return to be possible (I guess they mean the improvements of their arena).
Barclay Donaldson
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I can't see KHL letting them back in if they are serious about improving the league. The league's teams are finally starting to get arenas big enough to be make the teams financially sustainable, and letting Lada back in with that arena would be going in reverse
Well they need to replace the teams they lost I suppose and Lada being an historic team makes sense to want them back in the league.
I don't understand about their arena though. 6000 capacity opened in 2013? Its nice enough and big enough for a top level team/league. Especially with good support which they tend to have.
Kunlun - don't have an arena
Severstal - Smaller
Avto - Smaller
Neftekhimik - Smaller
Admiral - Smaller
Vityaz - Change every week and their original home one is tiny
I'd rather have teams like Lada back in the league then 'new' teams setup in Dubai or whatever just to fill the gaps
Caser
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Barclay Donaldson
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Krasnoyarsk could be very good. Large city, I believe more than 1 million people and is a city of universities and science. But do they have a KHL level arena and I thought it was a bandy city?
There is a 7000 seat Platinum Arena, but they might have to do some changes for the KHL.
hansomreiste
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Any words/updates about potential candidates for the future? There will be no team added for 2023/24 obviously but what about next years? With the political situation the way it is, we can forget about Europe. I believe Lada, Novokuznetsk, Krasnoyarsk and Tyumen could make good candidates if they progress well in the coming years.
I'd say Lada are in next season, it's no surprise we see LADA adverts all over the KHL this past season.
Putin himself had a meeting to ensure that the finances for Lada will be in place to come back.
Molot-Prikamye Perm would get a KHL level arena in the future, but they would need a lot more money for the team. It is a big city though, and they could be a good addition to the Kharlamov division.
Caser
@RUSProspects
Barclay Donaldson
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Lada was originally kicked out of the league for arena-related issues. Did they renovate their arena at all?
Caser
@RUSProspects
Originally it was in 2010, since then their current arena was built in 2013 and so Lada was back in 2014. In 2018 the main reasons was that they just sucked and were having frequent financial issues. However they still should make some arena improvements during the summer, iirc their current boards don't meet the KHL standards, maybe something else too.
SoundAndFury
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I don't get why not just promote the best teams of the VHL. Arena requirements and whatnot are bogus at this point anyway.
Caser
@RUSProspects
The main reason is that playing in the KHL is more expensive, so the teams just don't want that too much (at least not much enough to find that extra amount of money) otherwise I'm sure that teams like Kuznya and Sokol Krasnoyarsk would be welcome. Also there is Yugra, who kind of have the money, but prefer to be a top team in the VHL rather than being a bad one in the KHL.
hansomreiste
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There is one I thing I have been repeating here for years: I hope Sokol makes it one day. On paper they would have nothing less than Novisibirsk or Omsk honestly... Major Siberian city with 1M population, more than enough arena for the KHL, no other sport takes precedence over hockey (maybe with the exception of bandy and basketball a little bit but I reckon it is not a strong following enough to dwarf a good hockey team)... Hope there are some works underway for them. With some money and acceptable level of management they could at least be a mediocre eastern team if not one of the best.
Expansion into Europe is a ship that sailed at least for 10 years if not more. Just bring in a few good Russian, Belarussian or Kazakh clubs.
Expansion into Europe is a ship that sailed at least for 10 years if not more. Just bring in a few good Russian, Belarussian or Kazakh clubs.
vorky
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It is important to understand what the KHL has been doing with arena requirements. The league´ standards for arena are raising every year, it is done due to TV coverage & fans comfort. What was enough for lets say Slovan back in 2012 or even Lada a few years ago is NOT enough now.
The KHL inspects arenas every year. Does any other European hockey league do such a detailed and frequent inspection? While improving arena requirements year to year?
I fully understand what the KHL is doing/trying to do, and Lada GM has stated the arena improvements will be ready by Aug 1st this year to meet KHL standards.
Also, they have increased the salary floor and removed the player bonuses because people were cheating the salary cap system with it.
My question is, why would somebody assume that the arena standard requirements in the KHL are bogus now?
According to Championat article, Lada's salary budget for the coming season is 520m rub or $6.3m.
Which is on par with Dynamo Moscow this current season who spent 550m rub
Which is on par with Dynamo Moscow this current season who spent 550m rub
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Легендарный клуб снова в элите нашего хоккея! Что нужно знать о возвращении «Лады» в КХЛ
Первый немосковский чемпион страны получит неплохой зарплатный бюджет, но пока непонятно, каким будет состав и кто будет главным тренером.
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I've updated my post it was Dynamo Mosocow, my mistake. Well the article claims they spent 550m
