Kansas City Scouts

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    I am wondering how fans out there remmber the old kansas city scouts.there were only in the NHL for 2 seasons 1974-75 and 1975-76.then they moved to colorado and became the colorado rockies from 1976-77 to 1981-82.they left from colorado and moved to new jersey for the 1982-83 season.
     
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    Dave Hudson

    Here is a photo showing Dave Hudson of the scouts. this photo was taken at the detroit olympia stadium before a scouts at red wings game.you see in this color photo the jersey for the scouts.
     
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    Gary Bergman

    This photo shows the long time detroit red wings defenseman Gary Bergman who ended his career with the scouts in the 1975-76 season. he also played for the minnesota north stars for part of a season before coming back to detroit.
     
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    Wilf Paiement

    Here is Wilf Paiement who was the big star for the scouts there 2 years in kansas city. he scored the only scouts hat trick in there history against montreal at the kemper arena.he also moved with the team to colorado for the 1976-77 NHL season.
     
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    Denis Herron

    Here is Denis Herron who was the goaltender for the scouts.he was a good goalie just like Gilles Meloche of the california seals but played on bad teams. Herron also played for pittsburgh and montreal.
     
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    Great photo of Herron!

    I used a Scouts avatar for a while. I like many of the old teams/logos/uniforms of the 70s teams that no longer exist.
     
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    The Scouts is my favorite all-time NHL logo. Many of the WHA logos rank among my favorite all-time...mainly the Crusaders, Raiders and Fighting Saints...if you ever get a chance to see the original jerseys up close either via the HHOF or personal collection the crests of the WHA are so intricate it's incredible.
     
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    Bottle Opener

    Here is a item from back in the 1970s that i use to see all of the time in the hockey digest its a skate bottle opener.this is the kansas city scouts bottle opener. you can still today find these for sale on ebay.
     
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    I attendended the Scouts very first road game at the LA forum against the Kings in October 1974. The Kings won 3-0 I think but the Scouts played us hard.
     
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    A few years ago, I came across a Scouts-Seals' game program from Kansas City at a collector's show (sports, other items). It was in a bargain rack. I bought it and have it somewhere in storage.

    Another matter, the timing of the teams' existence is significant, but I recall the Scouts losing 10-0 games in both their years when they played in Philadelphia. IIRC, the Scouts got just one tie (one point) in 10 games played against the Flyers. Then, when they moved to Colorado, the teams met in the first round of the 1978 playoffs and Game 1 went to overtime and the Flyers won in the first minute. Doug Favell was incredible for the Rockies in that game and was picked as top star of the game.
     
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    That 1978 playoff game is shown on tv every once in a while and i do have the game on VHS. Doug Favell was incredible for the rockies in that game.
     
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    What TV? Where? I remember ESPN Classic showed it once -- the night of the Avs-Devils Game 7 because I think they had a Colorado sports weekend.
     
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    ESPN classic has had that game on a few times, but i have not seen them putting on tv any old hockey or even baseball games.also the game can be found out there on the web.
     
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    It has morphed into the all-classic boxing channel, or so it seems.
     
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    Played at the old Kemper Arena in KC. Which was "new" at the time.

    Ogopogo - regarding the '70s uniforms, this one from the Caps first season (came in same time as the Scouts) was a bit much. White pants!
     
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    Only in the US. In Canada it still shows classic hockey games. Maybe when the NHL, if it ever does get it going, the NHL Network (US) will show some of the old games of the Scouts, Rockies, and various other now-defunct NHL teams.
     
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    I am not sure if there articles (two links below) were posted from this past weekend. BTW, I think that is an error with the Bobby Hull reference.

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/hockey/v-print/story/181496.html

    Then the hockey began. And things started off badly for the Scouts. They had to play their first eight games on the road because of the American Royal — so they were 0-7-1 before they even played their first home game. Tough to build up much excitement.

    Still, the first home game was a magical night. There were almost 15,000 people in the stands. Before the game, the winless Scouts were given a long standing ovation.

    And they played their guts out that game and outshot a star-studded Chicago Blackhawks team (that team had Hall of Famers Bobby Hull and Stan Mikita and star goaltender Tony Esposito). The Scouts lost 4-3, but when it ended there was another standing ovation for the Kansas City players.

    “What an amazing crowd,†Scouts coach Bep Guidolin said. He was called Bep because his mother spoke English with a thick accent, and she called her youngest son “Beppy†instead of “Baby.†The nickname was shortened to Bep. He, too, may have been hired for his name.


    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/v-print/story/181473.html
     
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    I doubt it. If/when the NHL Network comes on in the US it will be the same network seen in Canada. Seems to me the only defunct teams' games I've seen on that network are Nordiques and Jets games. Occasionally, I think they show a Whalers game from their '86 Adams Division playoff series with the Habs.

    However, I would like to see more classic games from the '70s and '80s on tv. The problem is all games weren't covered back then, so the only major archive of NHL games comes from CBC and TSN (and to a lesser extent ESPN). That means that since the Scouts and Rockies were not major draws in Canada, they were largely ignored by Hockey Night In Canada.

    What I wish the NHL would do is acknowledge the WHA's existence like the NFL has done with the AFL. Then we could see the CTV's archive of WHA games begin to be aired on the NHL Network. I'd love to see Gretzky's first pro game (if televised) or his first game as an Oiler. I'm sure at worse his first professional playoff game was covered, so that could be shown. Plus I'm sure a lot of fans would be interested in seeing the Jets' Avco Cup runs and Gordie Howe in Houston and New England.
     
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    They weren't major draws anywhere!

    There are a few games out there of Gretzky lighting the Rockies up. And since they made the playoffs for a grand total of 2 games before moving to Jersey that rules out even more games. It's a shame but I would love to see an old Rockies game for the nostalgia.
     
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    I have been told that HNIC did not save any kansas city scouts games on video. but a friend of mine has told me that he heard of a couple kansas city vs montreal games on video but the games are in french.i dont know if this is just a rumor or its true. you talk about the old AFL did they keep any games on video. i am looking for some 1960-1963 new york titans-jets games from the polo grounds.
     
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    Unfortunately, there are only a few complete WHA games that survived. The CTV archive would not have any. In fact, there is no CTV archive of any hockey games - WHA or NHL. The only complete game with Gretzky in the WHA is the final Avco Cup game. The NHL had no gripe with the WHA - most of the people working at the NHL weren't even around when the WHA was in existence - 30 years ago is a long time. It's a non issue.

    If you are a WHA fan, then buy the WHA DVD set that is slated for release in the fall.

    It's too bad but you won't be seeing any more 'new' classic games from the 70's because there are very few to show. And it had nothing to do with the Scouts and Rockies not being major draws. I don't know why people here think there is a conspiracy regarding certain teams and the WHA when there are more rational reasons to explain things.

    Simply, the games from the 70's weren't preserved - not just the defunct teams.

    And disregard the poster who keeps floating the rumour about the Kansas City Scouts games - that rumour is over 15 years old and has absolutely no basis in fact.

     
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    What I meant by the NFL and AFL is that the NFL has combined stats for the AFL and included that part of their history as NFL history. I honestly have no idea if there's Titans/Jets games floating around, but I doubt it. I mean there's no complete copy of Super Bowl I left from what I remember.
     
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    The AFL is the exxception for merged leagues. The NFL doesn't count AAFC stats, NBA doesn't count ABA and NHL doesn't count WHA.
     
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    What I meant is the NHL disregarded the history of the WHA when it merged. Unlike the NBA and NFL, the NHL does not consider stats from the WHA games as career "NHL" stats. Ergo, Gordie Howe is even more behind Wayne Gretzky for career records. I didn't mean there was a conspiracy per se, but the NHL simply doesn't consider the Oilers, Jets, Nordiques or Whalers to have existed prior to the 1979-80 season.

    I'm disappointed to hear that CTV did not save any of its WHA broadcasts. I hope that they at least hung on to their '92 and '94 Olympic hockey broadcasts. I'd love to see some of those Canada games.

    What WHA set are you referring to? I'm not a WHA fan as the league merged with the NHL 3 years before I was born, but I am a Gretzky fan and would have loved to have seen more of his games from that 1978-79 season. I wonder if the Oilers had a local TV deal that season? If so perhaps that station may have copies of their games in some archive. As well, some of the CTV affiliates might have copies of WHA/NHL games in their archives that the network didn't keep. I'll have to do some checking and see what's available, but I'm sure you're probably right in this regard.
     

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