Player Discussion Josh Jooris

[Machinehead]

Oh ok. I thought might just have been Hartley being dumb.

Well Calgary is known to hate good hockey players, so there's that too.

 

[Leetch3]

Did you read the rest of his post?

"Can Skate." "Play some DECENT hockey."

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

I believe (unless corrected) he would still be a RFA next off-season.



As far as my understanding, Rangers would still have his rights, but that does not mean the Rangers would not move them to somewhere maybe he would have a better chance at playing in the NHL, or that they would not allow him to go play in some other non North American league.

I think the Jooris signing is plainly a chance that he can be a decent bottom 6 if not just 4th line center for them with PK, none of the other players competing for spots, or even Gerbe, Grabner have played much if any center in the NHL recently or even in the past 3, 4 years.

Jooris will be an RFA at the end of next season, but the Rangers have to give him a qualifying offer to retain his rights (he's not required to sign obviously). If the deadline (typically 7/15 or so) passes without the player signing, the Rangers retain his rights, but as an RFA he can sign a deal with another team in the NHL and all the Rangers can do is match the offer if they want to keep him.

Don't think a player in this position (as Hrivik is this year) has any trade value, since a team can sign him to an offer sheet without giving up anything.

 

[Lunatik]

Why didn't Calgary resign him?

A few reasons.

1) His QO would have been $1,023,750 on a one-way deal.
2) He had arbitration rights.
3) Adding Chiasson and the possible graduation of Hathaway to NHL made him a bit redundant and a slightly lesser option as the other two are more physical.

 

[aufheben]

A few reasons.

1) His QO would have been $1,023,750 on a one-way deal.
2) He had arbitration rights.
3) Adding Chiasson and the possible graduation of Hathaway to NHL made him a bit redundant and a slightly lesser option as the other two are more physical.

Oh I see, thanks.

 

[Lunatik]

Oh I see, thanks.

No problem, you guys did get a good one though IMO. I hope he finds a way to stick but if he's playing center rather than RW I think it will hurt his chances at success.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

If they intended to let him walk, they wouldn't have given him the QO. Though maybe it's Hrivik who intends to sign in Europe.

The organization is just keeping their options open--if they qualify him, then they retain his rights, even if Hrivik doesn't sign the qualifying offer. Gives them the opportunity to match any offer he gets from another NHL team.

Don't really think he's in their plans.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

 

[bobbop]

A year ago, some people were including Jooris in their trade wish lists. He is what he is, 4th line energy guy on cheap contract. Nice move. I see no risk at all.

 

[kovazub94]

I might be wrong but I recall noticing him and hearing his name mentioned a few times when the Rangers were playing the Flames.

Him, Grabner (and on the outside chance maybe Lindberg when healthy) will fight for a wing spot on the 3rd line with Hayes and Buch.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I like this signing but I still think we have too many 4th line players. Rather have more competition for our top 9 than have 7-8 4th line players.

 

[NYR Viper]

Important to note that last year was his sophomore season. Sophomore slumps are a real thing. Really like this signing. High energy kid with some actual skill and size. Good on the PK, versatile.

 

[Inferno]

Important to note that last year was his sophomore season. Sophomore slumps are a real thing. Really like this signing. High energy kid with some actual skill and size. Good on the PK, versatile.

does he have size? i always thought of him as a small player?

 

[Leetch3]

does he have size? I always thought of him as a small player?

6'1 187

 

[Raspewtin]

Important to note that last year was his sophomore season. Sophomore slumps are a real thing. Really like this signing. High energy kid with some actual skill and size. Good on the PK, versatile.

Sophomore slump?

He was great last year.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

Nice "getting to know you" piece...

http://calgaryherald.com/sports/hockey/jooris-signs-in-the-big-apple-i-saw-a-great-opportunity

 

[KreiderHouseRules*]

Jooris is going to be a fan favorite here.

#86 will be a popular jersey at MSG.

 

[FLYLine27*]

He's going to be a very nice addition to the bottom 6. Nice replacement of Moore.

 

[NYR Viper]

Jooris is going to be a glue guy for next years bottom-6. Really like the signing.

 

[KreiderHouseRules*]

Grabner better come to camp in great shape. Otherwise, he's going to have some real competition from Jooris for that 3rd line wing spot.

As I see it now (depth chart):

Kreider Stepan Nash
Miller Zibanejad Zuccarello
_____ Hayes Buchnevich
_____ Lindberg Fast

With Lindberg on IR for a few months, it's more like:

Kreider Stepan Nash
Miller Zibanejad Zuccarello
_____ Hayes Buchnevich
_____ _____ Fast

Grabner, Jooris, Jensen, Hrivik, Glass, Gerbe all competing for those 3 spots.

I think NYR expect Grabner to grab the 3rd line spot, with Jooris centering the 4th line until Lindberg returns, leaving either Hrivik, Jensen, or Glass as the fourth line LW.

However, I think Jooris is skilled enough to challenge for that 3LW spot. He brings the energy and effort consistently. If he feels comfortable and confident with the puck, he can really contribute as a secondary/tertiary scorer in the bottom-9.

Jooris-Hayes-Buchnevich has a dynamic yet balanced element to it. A little bit of snarl, some size and playmaking, and Buch as the all-around offensive facilitator.

Now, Grabner-Hayes-Buchnevich has similar appeal, with the speed factor replacing Jooris's grit and energy, although at this point, while Grabner is almost certainly FASTER, I'm not sure Grabner uses his speed as well as Jooris uses his.

Either guy (Jooris / Grabner) will be expected to play the Hagelin role for Hayes: puck retrieval, winning 50-50 battles, jumping into holes, pushing back the D and creating space for Hayes and whoever the RW is (assuming Buch). IMO, Jooris is a better fit for that role, but I'm rooting for Grabner to prove me wrong; that way we'll have two guys adding that much-needed dynamic speed element.

Just wanted to post that Jooris will give Grabner a run for his money in regards to that 3rd line spot.

 

[jay from jersey]

for me

i dunno i see lindberg as a winger and trigger man sort of deal. he has a quick release and a good hard deceptive shot. I would like to see him on hayes left wing when he returns and have

grabner Jooris Fast

until forgarty is ready mid year or next year.

Jooris Forgarty Fast
EX grabner

 

[Mikos87]

Kreider Stepan Nash
Miller Zibanejad Zuccarello
Buchnevich Hayes Fast
Grabner Lindberg Jooris

That's a fast team, and minutes are distributed well. Roles are defined, good offense and speed. I would even say this forward has a chance to contend with a great defense.

Really a lot of moves need to be made. I'd like to see one forward getting traded along side Nash, and a Staal trade...

Rangers should get an expansion protected piece in return for one of those players. Say a good NHL prospect still in college.

 

[Off Sides]

Where is Glass?

You know it's happening.



Also I think Gerbe may surprise, or he may disappoint, but I am not totally counting him out just yet.

Jooris, I like the signing, he hopefully fits right in with all that motor/tenacity I hope/feel they added.

 

[cwede]

... Gerbe may surprise, or he may disappoint, but I am not totally counting him out just yet.

Not a big Gerbe fan myself, but fact is, he hasnt been nack to minors since spring of '10
If i had to choose, I'd waive him ahead of Jensen, Jooris or Hrivik, but i am not Gorton ..

 

[NYR713]

Grabner - Jooris - Fast would be a great shutdown line with tons of speed for a transition game. Stick them in front of a Staal and G pairing so that they can just ice the puck whenever they get possession of it and at least one of those forwards will probably beat the opposition 60-70% of the time to negate.

If they sign Vesey, he could then slot in with Hayes and Buch on the 3rd and Gerbe is 13th until Lindberg comes back.