Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin: "In an ideal world he's a winger," Edition.

[ahmedou]

The follow up

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[CauZuki]

Shoot da puck.

 

[Legend123]

Stop sleeping on the ice

 

[badbrains]

Shoulda taken a gamble on Sergachev if we're gonna insist on playing Drouin at center. On pace for 12 goals, not good enough even with the team in the shitter.

Who's really calling the shots as far as who plays where, MB or Clode? Gotta think a veteran coach word have figured it out by now.

 

[calder candidate]

Drouin will never live up to expectations, being traded to Mtl in the middle of a downard spiral will not help... He is a good player lot of skills but not enough to carry a team... Sergachev will be the next Mcdonagh...

 

[Dongstoppable]

Feel like I haven't noticed Drouin on the ice at all in like ten games.

Not good enough.

 

[muzion]

Pretty much everyone here believed we won the trade... you guys did know it involved a top 5 GM vs a bottom 5 one right? You guys did know one of the best organizations chose a smaller 3rd rounder, instead of an exciting 3rd overall right? You guys did know he's an ace on the PP but stuggled to produce 5 on 5 right? Not saying he's a bad player, but we were asking him to be a go-to player, and the odds of that happening were pretty freaking low.

 

[teamfirst]

way too soon to judge Drouin, he played only 23 game for the habs for god sake, but defenitively not a center thats pretty clear to me

 

[Skip Bayless]

Pretty much everyone here believed we won the trade... you guys did know it involved a top 5 GM vs a bottom 5 one right? You guys did know one of the best organizations chose a smaller 3rd rounder, instead of an exciting 3rd overall right? You guys did know he's an ace on the PP but stuggled to produce 5 on 5 right? Not saying he's a bad player, but we were asking him to be a go-to player, and the odds of that happening were pretty freaking low.

And now we will shit on him to no end.

 

[Miller Time]

Feel bad for him... He's a long way from being a dominant player, and may never get there.

The comparison s to sergachev will only keep intensifying.

Another gem of a decision by our clueless GM

 

[Skip Bayless]

If the organization never stops pretending he's Sidney Crosby to mask the ineptitude of management and fails to add an actual top C to the squad eventually (via Draft, signing JT or trade), I can see his development stalling and maybe even regressing.

I saw it coming from a mile away, if the team struggled, fans would turn on him because management and PR put immense pressure on him to avoid facing scrutiny this summer. Certainly struggling, but he's not a C nor a go to guy at this point, maybe eventually. But they need to put him in a situation he can succeed in and not keep him at C by default.

 

[Habs]

would take him over Sergachev, any day of the week. Couldn't imagine how bad Serg would be on this edition of the Canadiens, it would be awful

 

[mariolemieux66]

Drouin reminds Tanguay, a good player with good skills, but he won't lead your team, he's not the guy. To succeed, Drouin needs to play wing with a good centermen.

 

[Miller Time]

would take him over Sergachev, any day of the week. Couldn't imagine how bad Serg would be on this edition of the Canadiens, it would be awful

Disagree 100%.

Sergachev paired with Weber & MB might actually have been able to keep his job...

 

[Monsieur Miz]

would take him over Sergachev, any day of the week. Couldn't imagine how bad Serg would be on this edition of the Canadiens, it would be awful

Based on what ? People are having a hard-on for Victor Mete ; a dude with 3 assists in 22 games while being -2. Nothing special yet we sell him as if he was a top 2 defenceman in the making.
When they drafted Sergachev, they said he had what it took to be the ''next Andrei Markov''.
Sergachev would've learned a lot if he had the opportunity to play with Markov but nope ... let's get rid of both of them !

Drouin floats on the ice.
Imagine if they traded Matt Duchene for Galchenyuk ! I'm puking just thinking about it.

I remember when Bergevin was hired, he said he wanted a team that would be intimidating to play against. Worked out great.

 

[E82]

Based on what ? People are having a hard-on for Victor Mete ; a dude with 3 assists in 22 games while being -2. Nothing special yet we sell him as if he was a top 2 defenceman in the making.
When they drafted Sergachev, they said he had what it took to be the ''next Andrei Markov''.
Sergachev would've learned a lot if he had the opportunity to play with Markov but nope ... let's get rid of both of them !

Drouin floats on the ice.
Imagine if they traded Matt Duchene for Galchenyuk ! I'm puking just thinking about it.

I remember when Bergevin was hired, he said he wanted a team that would be intimidating to play against. Worked out great.

Facts

 

[WeThreeKings]

Completely incomprehensible that he doesn't have the makings of a NHL centre.

No one could have predicted this, nope.

 

[Electricity]

...management and PR put immense pressure on him to avoid facing scrutiny this summer.

That's a great point and it's another sign that management has an adversarial relationship with its own players.

The deal seemed to be presented as, "Here he is! Here's our savior!" Bergie made it happen! And if it doesn't work out, the blame is to be found....."in that room."

 

[Habs]

Based on what ? People are having a hard-on for Victor Mete ; a dude with 3 assists in 22 games while being -2. Nothing special yet we sell him as if he was a top 2 defenceman in the making.
When they drafted Sergachev, they said he had what it took to be the ''next Andrei Markov''.
Sergachev would've learned a lot if he had the opportunity to play with Markov but nope ... let's get rid of both of them !

Drouin floats on the ice.
Imagine if they traded Matt Duchene for Galchenyuk ! I'm puking just thinking about it.

I remember when Bergevin was hired, he said he wanted a team that would be intimidating to play against. Worked out great.

All is fine and dandy playing with that Tampa team, everything is great. Put Serg here, and he's losing all confidence, -15 and struggling like the rest.

Mete shouldn't be here, its a sign of how bad our blueline is.

 

[JLP]

Sergachev was obviously the highest bid and TB jumped at it. I guess when Bergy hears a name like "Drouin" the sky's the limit!

 

[Sky04]

Drouin wasn't even on Tampa's trading block this summer, reports in the summer said him and Cooper had finally repaired things, Stamkos called him a core player on the team - I wouldn't be surprised if MB looked at Tampa's cap situation, tried beat the curve and offered Serg for Drouin thinking Tampa would've had to move on from one of their 3 RFA's. Yzerman wasn't shopping Drouin, MB came up to him and offered Serg for Drouin which just looks dumb.

Looking back on post trade quotes I'm leaning more towards this assumption.

MB:

"When you have the chance to get your hands on a player of Jonathan's talent at a young age, it's very important," Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin said of the 22-year-old from Ste-Agathe, Quebec. "This opportunity probably hasn't been available to me in five years. Plus, he's a kid from here, so for me it was a decision I had to make.
"Giving up Sergachev was not easy, but acquiring Jonathan was a chance we couldn't pass up."

Yzerman:

"We were looking for that type of player and we were able to find a fit. That's why the trade was made. The Montreal Canadiens were looking for a forward. That was the forward they targeted from us."

 

[teamfirst]

If the organization never stops pretending he's Sidney Crosby to mask the ineptitude of management and fails to add an actual top C to the squad eventually (via Draft, signing JT or trade), I can see his development stalling and maybe even regressing.

I saw it coming from a mile away, if the team struggled, fans would turn on him because management and PR put immense pressure on him to avoid facing scrutiny this summer. Certainly struggling, but he's not a C nor a go to guy at this point, maybe eventually. But they need to put him in a situation he can succeed in and not keep him at C by default.

i tried to find where the habs managementn made any comments to put more pressure on him and the only thing i found was this quote by MB after the trade


"The chance to put your hands on a player like that, at that age, and a guy from here, I can't pass that up. We gave up a lot but I'm convinced we got back a big piece."

no big deal

fans turn on him beceause they have big expectations for JD, and they should have big expection cuz he's got tremendous skill, but like i said before.....it is way way too soon to judge him only 23 game with us and with the kind of season we have so far doesnt help, same thing with sergatchev, it's only 20 games

it's like anything else in life nowadays, we want it and we want it now......doesnt always work that way

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Don't be too hard on JD. He was traded to a bad team who got half his D changed for lesser D.
We ask him to play center while he's more a winger. Can't blame him if Bergevin never got a legit center in 5 years and the same in Gainey-Gauthier era.

It's only 21 games and he's only 22 y. If eventually MB can make a trade to get a true #1 center we will see a very different Drouin.

 

[Harpo]

Even though he's been terrible in the last 2-3 games, I'm still OK with the trade.

He's playing with two talented but very dumb players in MaxPac and Galchy, and when trying to become a 1st line center, that may be hard.

He'd look better playing on the wing, even if Shaw, Plekanec or Danault is the center.

***Posting this from the great Internet Explorer, since this site still brings Chrome to a crawl***

 

[Electricity]

it's like anything else in life nowadays, we want it and we want it now......doesnt always work that way

Well maybe it'll work out in a couple years. Right about when Marc hits his stride?