Rumor: Jets to play in the "Canadian Division" during pandemic

[John Agar]

i disagree.
Leafs will have the most favourable travel schedule and they're a solid team.
Leafs
Nucks
Flambs
Jets
Oil
Sens

Depends how the leagure structures the games... back to backs I assume... by time zone... and to limit exactly what you pointed out... I expect the other Canadian teams to demand balance...

Also... it's Toronto... you can disagree, but Toronto trailing us... trailing any team... really is agreeable to Me...

And oh... I still don't think they have addressed their issues, nor will it progress maturity in their team... just My take... it's what's between their young-star's ears that is the challenge... not easily fixed...

 

[abax44]

The Dennis Beyak call was INFINITE times better imo!

That's the highlight package I wanted to see.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Yes.

Considering our key injuries and d turnover I do expect this group to perform much better.

I guess you're more optimistic than I am then. Obviously we are in a better situation than a year ago, but I just don't see the current additions improving the defense that gave up the most high danger scoring changes in nhl, to even an average level.

 

[JetsNut]

If they decide to hold a regular season to empty arenas then it will be purely a business development/damage control scenario. They may be willing to list money doing this as to not have too many casual fans drift away from the game. Especially in some of those southern markets. No way in hell that TV revenue puts them any where near the black!

 

[Hollywood3]

The MJHL has few situations where one team encounters more than one or two at a time. A sample schedule for a segment of the NHL would be:

Fri-Sat Vancouver at Edmonton
Fri-Sat Toronto at Calgary
Tue-Wed Toronto at Edmonton
Tue-Wed Vancouver at Calgary

Meanwhile ...

Fri Winnipeg at Montreal
Sat Winnipeg at Ottawa
Sun Montreal at Ottawa
Mon Winnipeg at Montreal
Tue Winnipeg at Ottawa
Wed Ottawa at Montreal

The teams would then start again with something similar on Saturday, allowing a few days for no contact with anybody.

 

[Eyeseeing]

4 time zones so it ain't happening

That’s exactly why it will happen.
We live in crazy times.
The Jets don’t play Montreal, Ottawa or Calgary particularly well either.
I hope we don’t have to go this route.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

That’s exactly why it will happen.
We live in crazy times.
The Jets don’t play Montreal, Ottawa or Calgary particularly well either.
I hope we don’t have to go this route.

You know why, eh? It's cause we got so many Americans on our roster. When they don't get that patriotic boost to their system from hearing their national anthem before the game, they just aren't going to be in top form. That's my hypothesis, I'm sticking to it.

 

[Eyeseeing]

You know why, eh? It's cause we got so many Americans on our roster. When they don't get that patriotic boost to their system from hearing their national anthem before the game, they just aren't going to be in top form. That's my hypothesis, I'm sticking to it.

Unless we play Vancouver 48 times... sorry @Ginger Papa
We seem to play well against them.
Edmonton too I suppose.
Toronto evenly.
But the other 3 dunno our kryptonite.

Edmonton needs goaltending I feel.

 

[Ginger Papa]

Unless we play Vancouver 48 times... sorry @Ginger Papa
We seem to play well against them.
Edmonton too I suppose.
Toronto evenly.
But the other 3 dunno our kryptonite.

Edmonton needs goaltending I feel.

 

[Jets 31]

Unless we play Vancouver 48 times... sorry @Ginger Papa
We seem to play well against them.
Edmonton too I suppose.
Toronto evenly.
But the other 3 dunno our kryptonite.

Edmonton needs goaltending I feel.

To be honest i think all the Canadian teams are pretty good, don't know about Ottawa, but there won't be many easy games.

 

[HannuJ]

Depends how the leagure structures the games... back to backs I assume... by time zone... and to limit exactly what you pointed out... I expect the other Canadian teams to demand balance...

Also... it's Toronto... you can disagree, but Toronto trailing us... trailing any team... really is agreeable to Me...

And oh... I still don't think they have addressed their issues, nor will it progress maturity in their team... just My take... it's what's between their young-star's ears that is the challenge... not easily fixed...

having Joe Thorton as your 4th line C is probably >>> than having Thompson.
the Leafs' biggest holes would be their D and their (playoff) goaltending. they didn't address the latter, which i find interesting. their D was upgraded by signing Brodie.

who would you rather have?
Reilly
Brodie
Muzzin
Lehtonen

or

Demelo
Morrissey
Pionk
Forbort (or Poolman)

i'd argue that the leafs' top have the edge. Reilly's better than our top D. our 2nd and 3rd D are better than theirs. Lehtonen's a wild card. Forbort is...well, he shouldn't be a top 4 D-man, ever. neither should Poolman

 

[Jets 31]

having Joe Thorton as your 4th line C is probably >>> than having Thompson.
the Leafs' biggest holes would be their D and their (playoff) goaltending. they didn't address the latter, which i find interesting. their D was upgraded by signing Brodie.

who would you rather have?
Reilly
Brodie
Muzzin
Lehtonen

or

Demelo
Morrissey
Pionk
Forbort (or Poolman)

i'd argue that the leafs' top have the edge. Reilly's better than our top D. our 2nd and 3rd D are better than theirs. Lehtonen's a wild card. Forbort is...well, he shouldn't be a top 4 D-man, ever. neither should Poolman

We are very lucky to have Helly , he's our best defenseman.

 

[tbcwpg]

That’s exactly why it will happen.
We live in crazy times.
The Jets don’t play Montreal, Ottawa or Calgary particularly well either.
I hope we don’t have to go this route.

The Jets would've been first or second last season in an all Canadian division.

 

[Eyeseeing]

The Jets would've been first or second last season in an all Canadian division.

Irrelevant as we didn’t play all our games against only Canadian teams.
Path not taken.

 

[tbcwpg]

Irrelevant as we didn’t play all our games against only Canadian teams.
Path not taken.

I'm talking about Canadian teams records against other Canadian teams. The Jets went 8-3 against Canadian teams last season.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

I'm talking about Canadian teams records against other Canadian teams. The Jets went 8-3 against Canadian teams last season.

Small sample size that would not necessarily continue over a full season of games.

 

[tbcwpg]

Small sample size that would not necessarily continue over a full season of games.

The same goes for all the other teams too, doesn't it?

 

[Eyeseeing]

I'm talking about Canadian teams records against other Canadian teams. The Jets went 8-3 against Canadian teams last season.

Oh my bad
For 48 I believe it would be different
I hate Montreal and Ottawa games

 

[Jets 31]

Small sample size that would not necessarily continue over a full season of games.

That's very optimistic for you to say, normally you would have said "small sample size that WON'T continue over a full season" .

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

That's very optimistic for you to say, normally you would have said "small sample size that WON'T continue over a full season" .

Don't know what I was thinking.

 

[John Agar]

having Joe Thorton as your 4th line C is probably >>> than having Thompson.
the Leafs' biggest holes would be their D and their (playoff) goaltending. they didn't address the latter, which i find interesting. their D was upgraded by signing Brodie.

who would you rather have?
Reilly
Brodie
Muzzin
Lehtonen

or

Demelo
Morrissey
Pionk
Forbort (or Poolman)

i'd argue that the leafs' top have the edge. Reilly's better than our top D. our 2nd and 3rd D are better than theirs. Lehtonen's a wild card. Forbort is...well, he shouldn't be a top 4 D-man, ever. neither should Poolman

The Leafs must have read My post... re: "between the ears"

Joe T. is a passionate hockey player... a rock... God help the kids who don't follow his lead... He changes things "In the Room"...

Brodie is a nice addition and does add to the Leafs back end...

I would agree with you... our last conversation was without these additions and these are great pickups...

The Leafs are now solidly in the playoff discussion...

Re: "which would you rather have"...

I am excited about Sandheim and Heinola coming on board... you did not list them... and I think you are underestimating a healthy Forbort's role and ability... as long as he is completely healthy... a flier move by Chevy for sure...

Outside of Reilly... and I agree he is better than every Jets D'... but our guys have upside... I would rather have our group... young ... with upside and salary flexibility and control...

The Jets forward cohort I think is as talented as the Leafs and definitely more seasoned... but unfortunately saddled with old school systems and predictable and passive special teams...

Reality is a bitch... Toronto is in win now mode... the Jets are re-tooling for the long term while avoiding crippling cap issues...

The Leafs are not Stanley Cup material yet... last years implosion was due to youthful arrogance I am certain... and there is no certainty that it won't repeat again...

The Jets have made good moves to prepare for the future.... and I think Chevy still has "something" pending...

The Leafs are improved with their moves... doesn't make them All World...

Besides I still hold to My prejudice... Jets or any other team above the Leafs is a great thing in My world...

I am looking forward to the restart of the NHL... intriguing plot lines...

 

[HannuJ]

The Leafs must have read My post... re: "between the ears"

Joe T. is a passionate hockey player... a rock... God help the kids who don't follow his lead... He changes things "In the Room"...

Brodie is a nice addition and does add to the Leafs back end...

I would agree with you... our last conversation was without these additions and these are great pickups...

The Leafs are now solidly in the playoff discussion...

Re: "which would you rather have"...

I am excited about Sandheim and Heinola coming on board... you did not list them... and I think you are underestimating a healthy Forbort's role and ability... as long as he is completely healthy... a flier move by Chevy for sure...

Outside of Reilly... and I agree he is better than every Jets D'... but our guys have upside... I would rather have our group... young ... with upside and salary flexibility and control...

The Jets forward cohort I think is as talented as the Leafs and definitely more seasoned... but unfortunately saddled with old school systems and predictable and passive special teams...

Reality is a bitch... Toronto is in win now mode... the Jets are re-tooling for the long term while avoiding crippling cap issues...

The Leafs are not Stanley Cup material yet... last years implosion was due to youthful arrogance I am certain... and there is no certainty that it won't repeat again...

The Jets have made good moves to prepare for the future.... and I think Chevy still has "something" pending...

The Leafs are improved with their moves... doesn't make them All World...

Besides I still hold to My prejudice... Jets or any other team above the Leafs is a great thing in My world...

I am looking forward to the restart of the NHL... intriguing plot lines...

while i think the Tavares signing was a waste of cap space, i would argue that the Leafs' forwards get a solid A in my books. Jets would be an A- to B+. leafs are pretty f'ing deep with lots of talented, unlikeable players. very unlikeable.

 

[voyageur]

having Joe Thorton as your 4th line C is probably >>> than having Thompson.
the Leafs' biggest holes would be their D and their (playoff) goaltending. they didn't address the latter, which i find interesting. their D was upgraded by signing Brodie.

who would you rather have?
Reilly
Brodie
Muzzin
Lehtonen

or

Demelo
Morrissey
Pionk
Forbort (or Poolman)

i'd argue that the leafs' top have the edge. Reilly's better than our top D. our 2nd and 3rd D are better than theirs. Lehtonen's a wild card. Forbort is...well, he shouldn't be a top 4 D-man, ever. neither should Poolman

Leafs have the star power. But not the will power. Perpetually their problem. And as you said goaltending. Thornton is probably not their 4th line centre. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up as the 3c, with Nick Robertson on his wing, and Kerfoot moves up to the top 6 to replace Johnsson. If the Leafs have Thornton and Spezza as their bottom line centres, that's easily the slowest centres in the league at the bottom of a lineup. They would have a hard time keeping up with Lowry and Gustafsson, if we went that way. So then it's Matthews vs. Scheifele, and Tavares vs. Stastny, with our top 6 wingers having an edge. Robertson might tilt things if he climbs up the lineup.

Defense they have the edge. Reilly is a true #1, Muzzin and Brodie are probably better than Pionk and De Melo, though not by a substantial margin. Samberg or Heinola as it stands are our best hope for a top 4 addition. Lehtonen's exactly that, a wild card, having not played a single game on North American ice yet. If he doesn't make the top 4, the Leafs are relying on one of Holl (who is a lot like Poolman), Dermott, or Bogosian (who might not be so effective without Hedman) as their top 4 options. I don't feel like there is a tremendous amount of difference between Dermott-Holl and Beaulieu-Poolman per se.

Leafs are probably still better on paper.

I have been ranking Ottawa at the bottom but quietly they have some good players in their lineup. If Stuetzle starts with them they could have a pretty good top young top 9, that might skate a lot of teams hard. Chabot is up there for top d-men. Brannstrom is coming up the ranks. Just solved their goaltending problems. Might not be this year, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they passed a couple of Canadian teams.

 

[DRC]

I wonder if our playing style changes due to different advisories being played so frequently. I just remembered we have PoMo at the helm