Post-Game Talk: Jets 4 Canucks 2

[Gil Fisher]

Coolman working his ass off.....how does he not have ten goals. Heinola looked very comfortable last night, hopefully this the turning point for him.

i think we have the answer as to why he was on waivers.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I think GAR really likes Samberg. Not sure how that reconciles to the nervous play we've been seeing.

Or perhaps I'm misremembering the GAR stat.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Agreed on "lights out" . Think some are overrating him considerably. He was mostly solid last year, however it was in a v sheltered role, and V small amount of gp/ TOI . Weird how a similarly aged Stanley would get all these qualifiers of his play (sheltered, 3rd pair etc) meanwhile it's conveniently omitted with Samberg.

This year he's really fighting it. I don't ever see him a catalyst for offense, but his puck skills have been a weakness. Defensively I guess he's average given his role?

I don't get why samberg seems to have all this supposed untapped top 4 potential yet Stanley who is merely 7 months older is what he is? Id say Stanleys first year has been better than any of the proceeding seasons that any of the two players shown so far. They're in their draft+6th and draft+7th id say they're both closer to are what they are than make a huge jump to quality and consistent top 4 d. But I really hope I'm wrong.

I couldn’t agree more.

 

[WolfHouse]

I'm interested to see if Adam Lowry stays on the wing for a stretch here. Scheifele seemed pretty happy to have a guy who thinks the game well on his line. I'm just thinking now, if Perfetti comes back, would you keep Lowry on that line. Lowry is the kind of hard forechecker and toughness I think the Jets want playing around a player like Perfetti, except he has been cast into a role as top defending centre. And by the looks of it, he's been carrying his wingers, who have haven't played as well without him.

That's a tough one for me because I think strength down the middle has been a reason for the Jets success, and eventually you want to get Lowry back in his regular spot, with regular wingers, but Stenlund and Gustafsson both have something to prove, would you trust them on the road as unprotected centres against top players?

I would not.

 

[AlaskaJet]

Morrisey dayy to day? Welp...see you next season JoMo!

No worries, Bowness is not like that other guy. It’s Okay..it’s not like past years where the coach had a “let them think the aneurysm or lumbar hairline fracture is ‘just day-to-day’ script.
This guy is straight-up as forthcoming and informative as he can possibly be.
There is genuine room for optimism when he implies it, and unlike one of our former coaches, you can read his face a lot better.
Funny thing though, they both frown, although Bowness doesn’t have any angry scowl or glare like we used to see at pressers a few years back.
So yeah, we really could be seeing Norrissey any time soon, as long as nothing serious raises it’s head.

We need him healthy to hold the fort while sighting in on Oilers and Flames.
Let’s expect a more careful Slamberg and good performances from the rest of the D, counting on that from DeMelo and hopefully Dillon and () Pionk.
Tiny Heiny looks to be filling in the gaps much better.
I’ll be happy with 2 points out of 4 coming up..anything better is poutine with gravy.

 

[AlaskaJet]

Winning is more fun than losing.

Send Samberg down, let him get some confidence back. Last season he was lights out when he was up, he doesn't look the same right now.

Agreed, but I would give him one more game to show if he’s cleaned up his gaffs.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Agreed, but I would give him one more game to show if he’s cleaned up his gaffs.

He’s in until at Stanley is healthy whenever that is.
For the most part he’s been good, but I can understand some people wanting him out.
People feel that way about Heinola as well and last night Tiny Heiny played a good steady game, he may not next one it’s what they all go through.
DeMelo, Schmidt and Pionk constantly get shit on here too…… it’s HF baby

 

[RabidOne]

I don’t dislike Vancouver but man if they are ever to beat the Jets, last night was it.
Not sure but they seem off.

They keep doubling down on a team that hasn't won anything. They are right up against the cap with no prospects in the pool.

 

[RabidOne]

Their recent record against the Jets is pretty bad, especially on the road. Before last season, Vancouver had beaten the Jets once since 2015.

Oh, I know. I bet my boss and everyone that would take the bet for all those games. Just beer, but I have had a lot of free beer over those years.

 

[sipowicz]

I find Stanley to be slow afoot and not very agile and though he attempts to play physical he’s really not great at that either.
Samberg has more of an upside I believe.

Samberg has definitely struggled the last few games there’s no sugar coating that.

Stanley will get some playing time soon enough.

I didn't see Stanley passing the puck to the opposition a couple times a game like Poolberg does, plus he's as soft as margarine!

 

[Eyeseeing]

I didn't see Stanley passing the puck to the opposition a couple times a game like Poolberg does, plus he's as soft as margarine!

Stanley for all his size is weaker than all inclusive resort liquor and slower than a tax refund

 

[JetsUK]

Oh I agree that he's capable of much more but this is probably the first time he's given a glimpse of what he can bring.

The more confidence he gets the better he'll be imo.

Yep.

He had plenty of nice transitional and attacking plays but the one that stood out to me was in the 2nd IIRC when he'd made a play to take it in deep for a scoring chance, then picked the puck back up in the DZ and slung a pass back up the middle for another scoring chance by (I think) Stenlund -- or maybe Kuhlman. Or someone.

It's the kind of play that can throw off defenders while keeping the pressure on the opposing team who aren't expecting to have to defend again so quickly. A good example of how he can defend well by not having to defend.

Thought 55 and 80 were terrific, with 80 being absolutely dominant for quite a few shifts once again. Lowry and 37 of course, DeMelo and the Swede Dreams line plus Harkins did their thing. Team started to take the game over after a shaky first 15.

Fill out those get well cards for JNorr. He's gonna need 'em, and we need him.

Looking forward to seeing our ECHL depth shortly.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I’m seeing reports online that Draisaitl is out for tonight’s game. Could be long term.
Catching the Oilers without him and on the 2nd half of a back-to-back is something our injury riddled team could use.

They play in Seattle so the Jets will be waiting for them. Doesn’t mean we’ll win but at least it helps to balance out the shit storm we’ve been enduring.

 

[scelaton]

I admit to sharing the disappointment of many posters here. I had hoped for quite a bit more from Samberg. But I don't want to jump all over his every mistake. We need to have a little more patience with him and not be overly influenced by the odd big event mistake.

True, but he has played 27 games this year, which a decent sample, and has pretty much performed as I expected. He has an NHL career ahead of him but will never be outstanding. We lose very little by giving him a break and others an opportunity.

Ville has only had 6 games this season, which is simply not enough time to judge. His floor is lower than Samberg's but his ceiling much higher. Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds..

 

[Adam da bomb]

any idea when Schmidt is back?

Stanley for all his size is weaker than all inclusive resort liquor and slower than a tax refund

But at least has more bite than Samberg who often looks like he is in the running for the Lady Bying award.

 

[Adam da bomb]

True, but he has played 27 games this year, which a decent sample, and has pretty much performed as I expected. He has an NHL career ahead of him but will never be outstanding. We lose very little by giving him a break and others an opportunity.

Ville has only had 6 games this season, which is simply not enough time to judge. His floor is lower than Samberg's but his ceiling much higher. Will be very interesting to see how this unfolds..

True but Heinol’s potential vs Samberg is less important than what he can do tomorrow since Jets are trying to be competitive not rebuild. Also Samberg brings a defensive game that they need for team balance as well as pks so fit is just as important.

 

[Jet]

True but Heinol’s potential vs Samberg is less important than what he can do tomorrow since Jets are trying to be competitive not rebuild. Also Samberg brings a defensive game that they need for team balance as well as pks so fit is just as important.

The problem is Samberg has not been bringing that for some time. He's not all bad but he has several pretty bad plays each game and right now we can't be gift wrapping goals to the other team with the injuries to our scoring.

As for pk, the guy can't clear the puck. That was one of our major issues with our pk last year.

He can block shots but so could Beaulieu

 

[Adam da bomb]

The problem is Samberg has not been bringing that for some time. He's not all bad but he has several pretty bad plays each game and right now we can't be gift wrapping goals to the other team with the injuries to our scoring.

As for pk, the guy can't clear the puck. That was one of our major issues with our pk last year.

He can block shots but so could Beaulieu

That’s a more legit argument than potential that Heinola is better right now. After all our window is as long as Helly Schief and Pld are here and then we have to go through a rebuild/ reboot.

 

[KingBogo]

No worries, Bowness is not like that other guy. It’s Okay..it’s not like past years where the coach had a “let them think the aneurysm or lumbar hairline fracture is ‘just day-to-day’ script.
This guy is straight-up as forthcoming and informative as he can possibly be.
There is genuine room for optimism when he implies it, and unlike one of our former coaches, you can read his face a lot better.
Funny thing though, they both frown, although Bowness doesn’t have any angry scowl or glare like we used to see at pressers a few years back.
So yeah, we really could be seeing Norrissey any time soon, as long as nothing serious raises it’s head.

We need him healthy to hold the fort while sighting in on Oilers and Flames.
Let’s expect a more careful Slamberg and good performances from the rest of the D, counting on that from DeMelo and hopefully Dillon and () Pionk.
Tiny Heiny looks to be filling in the gaps much better.
I’ll be happy with 2 points out of 4 coming up..anything better is poutine with gravy.

Right after a game rarely would a coach know the extent of any injuries especially if they happened late in a game. Likely at that point the team doctors are still trying to figure it out. Personally I like to hear a coach say f*** how should I know I haven’t even talked to the player or any doctors yet. And even if he has he needs the players consent to disclose anything.

 

[robertocarlos]

I would like to see more physicality, meanness out of berg.

Nope, not happening. Some players just don't work that way even if they have the tools.

 

[Channelcat]

Stanley for all his size is weaker than all inclusive resort liquor and slower than a tax refund

Stanley, when healthy is in our top 6 easily.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Nope, not happening. Some players just don't work that way even if they have the tools.

Doesn’t mean I can’t want to see it. I think it’s that factor that keeps him from being as good as Dillion when all is said and done.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Stanley for all his size is weaker than all inclusive resort liquor and slower than a tax refund

…but he’s still better than Samberg. However, that’s not why I’m responding. I just wanted to salute you for the hilarious put downs (weaker than an all inclusive resort liquor - classic!)

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Stanley, when healthy is in our top 6 easily.

I think it would remain a rotation for the 6th spot. Before Logan got injured he was in and out of the lineup. All depends on who plays the best. Stanley wasn’t having a very good season in terms of progressing. Until someone clearly establishes themselves (out of Stanley, Samberg, Capo & Heinola) I don’t think any of them is automatically in the lineup.

Our other 5 when healthy are set.

Oilers laying a massive beating on Seattle without Drai in the lineup (7-2 with a few minutes left). Hopefully they will be much less successful vs us.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Coolman working his ass off.....how does he not have ten goals. Heinola looked very comfortable last night, hopefully this the turning point for him.

Top 6 speed, bottom 6 hands.