Player Discussion Jesperi Kotkaniemi - (On Loan to Liiga)

[Hannibal]

Same as Norlinder, only two games and hes looked good, but its production we need. Come on KK.

The Norlinder’s special!

All flash but no dice!

 

[Skip Bayless]

"Trade Danault, we're good."

 

[Mrb1p]

"Trade Danault, we're good."

We know Danault doesnt produce in the NHL so I dont see how this makes sense

 

[DAChampion]

We know Danault doesnt produce in the NHL

You're exaggerating by a lot. Danault is a good NHL forward.

 

[Skip Bayless]

We know Danault doesnt produce in the NHL so I dont see how this makes sense

You're too sensitive

 

[Mrb1p]

You're exaggerating by a lot. Danault is a good NHL forward.

Zzzz, having to sugar coat words so a PhD holder understands that Im saying Danault does not produce in the circumstances he's given.

Come on bro

You're too sensitive

Is this your version of calling me a snowflake when youre offended :O

 

[Supersonic]

The same people complaining in the Norlinder thread are going to come in complaining about KK.

From the short clips we see he looks bigger and is skating well. Let’s just be happy he’s playing right now and not lose sight that his development will take time.

 

[BB88]

His skating looks way better, and he likes to throw a big hit here and there.

For the expectations moving forward:
He needs to be the best player on the ice, and in the entire league. He’s a straight up NHL player in Liiga. Not some 30+ year old vet way past his prime.
For points ppg min.
If we are hoping recent top draft pick Lundell to be in 0.8-1ppg range

 

[Redux91]

Did he get hurt?

 

[417]

His skating looks way better, and he likes to throw a big hit here and there.

For the expectations moving forward:
He needs to be the best player on the ice, and in the entire league. He’s a straight up NHL player in Liiga. Not some 30+ year old vet way past his prime.
For points ppg min.
If we are hoping recent top draft pick Lundell to be in 0.8-1ppg range

He really doesn't have to live up to these disproportionate expectations.

I'll personally settle for him just being healthy and ready to go for training camp. Anything more is gravy but health > points in Assät.

This loan to Assat is abouy condition, not production, I personally couldn't careless if he doesn't score a single point

 

[le_sean]

The same people complaining in the Norlinder thread are going to come in complaining about KK.

From the short clips we see he looks bigger and is skating well. Let’s just be happy he’s playing right now and not lose sight that his development will take time.

No complaints from me. KK has already proven to produce in Finland, produce in the AHL and produce in the NHL.

 

[Hins77]

The lack of production of KK doesnt concern me at all. He just started a new season, on a new level. Lets take a breath. And imo, KK will be known for his two way game play. Gonna give hit and to be implicated into the game. If KK become a 50/55 pts player im gonna be happy.

 

[Sens]

Merkley on the same team had no points and 24PIM after 3GP ...

 

[BLONG7]

If KK takes another leap from what he did in the playoffs, or in the least, just steadily continues from where he left off, I'm guessing no head coach who has a shred of credibility would be able to set that aside. Performance and results dictate decisions in a results-oriented environment.

I hope you are right.........I am not convinced Clod will put the right people together. This is a coach that constantly used Jordan 'Weal on the PP, with almost zero results....
I will reserve judgement and we can all hope for the best, please Clod, do the right thing!!

 

[BB88]

He really doesn't have to live up to these disproportionate expectations.

I'll personally settle for him just being healthy and ready to go for training camp. Anything more is gravy but health > points in Assät.

This loan to Assat is abouy condition, not production, I personally couldn't careless if he doesn't score a single point

It’s just reality if we want to see him be a top6 C next year in the NHL.

I wasn’t negative about him but just what he should be every day on the ice.

 

[417]

It’s just reality if we want to see him be a top6 C next year in the NHL.

I wasn’t negative about him but just what he should be every day on the ice.

His production in Assat, whether he produces or not, will have little to no impact on whether or not he's a top 6C next year in the NHL.

He could light the league on fire, once training camp starts, it's a whole new challenge.

 

[cphabs]

That nickname is cringe worthy.......It isn't his nickname and it doesn't even make sense.

His nickname is coconut

 

[cphabs]

If KK takes another leap from what he did in the playoffs, or in the least, just steadily continues from where he left off, I'm guessing no head coach who has a shred of credibility would be able to set that aside. Performance and results dictate decisions in a results-oriented environment.

Are you a new Habs fan? Sarcasm... lol

 

[overlords]

His nickname is coconut

His teammates call him KK from what I've seen.

 

[cphabs]

His teammates call him KK from what I've seen.

It’s a running joke of mine.

 

[Mrb1p]

His skating looks way better, and he likes to throw a big hit here and there.

For the expectations moving forward:
He needs to be the best player on the ice, and in the entire league. He’s a straight up NHL player in Liiga. Not some 30+ year old vet way past his prime.
For points ppg min.
If we are hoping recent top draft pick Lundell to be in 0.8-1ppg range

Id be really disappointed if he can't outproduce fellow high draft picks in the same league, he should be ahead of all of them and IMO, better.

He really doesn't have to live up to these disproportionate expectations.

I'll personally settle for him just being healthy and ready to go for training camp. Anything more is gravy but health > points in Assät.

This loan to Assat is abouy condition, not production, I personally couldn't careless if he doesn't score a single point

Its time we see them produce, its a good indicator of his level in the NHL.

 

[417]

Its time we see them produce, its a good indicator of his level in the NHL.

Debatable...but he's already produced in this league. IIRC, he's one of the most productive players to have played in that league for his age group.

This isn't the NHL though, it's a weird year where hockey started, stopped, started back up again, stopped and now he's playing in a much weaker league after being off for 6 weeks or so.

I get wanting to see some production and i'm sure it will come but we shouldn't make it be the end all of things.

The goals he will score is not going to be on NHL goaltending and the passes he's making to his linemates aren't NHL players either.

There's only so much to read into the numbers right now.

 

[Mrb1p]

Debatable...but he's already produced in this league. IIRC, he's one of the most productive players to have played in that league for his age group.

This isn't the NHL though, it's a weird year where hockey started, stopped, started back up again, stopped and now he's playing in a much weaker league after being off for 6 weeks or so.

I get wanting to see some production and i'm sure it will come but we shouldn't make it be the end all of things.

The goals he will score is not going to be on NHL goaltending and the passes he's making to his linemates aren't NHL players either.

There's only so much to read into the numbers right now.

Everyones producing but our prospects, at some point we have to see progress, numbers. Im tired of getting the onion of the orchard. (Is this even a saying, I dont think so)

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

His nickname is coconut

His nick name is KK.

Show me players referring to him as coconut........if I remember correctly it was just the usual gross fanboy infatuation of nicknaming 18 year old boys when they get drafted.

Your nickname is what your friends call you, not strangers who have never met you.

 

[417]

Everyones producing but our prospects, at some point we have to see progress, numbers. Im tired of getting the onion of the orchard. (Is this even a saying, I dont think so)

Well other then having ammo to participate in HF discussions about prospects...who really cares.

The handful of games he's going to play in Assat this year isn't going to determine how the rest of his career goes.

Though again, I certainly understand and share on some level, wanting him to put up some goals and assists while he's there. That's normal.

But I really don't think it means much in the grand scheme of things other than bragging rights on a message board with rival fans.